What a find. Does certainly look very like a Halton pannier although I am a bit unhappy about the profile of the ends, where it mated with the belly of the aircraft. The Halifax/Halton had a flat bottomed fuselage but the item in the image looks more rounded, like a Lancasters.
That said the door looks a perfect match for the one in this image http://www.viewimages.com/Search.aspx?mid=3421141&epmid=1&partner=Google
In this image their appears to be a second entry door at the rear of the pannier which isnt visible on the one Consul has posted, is it just out of shot?
I can only think of Warwicks, Hastings and those meat carrying Lincolns as other pannier equiped types.
Richard
Any aircraft that is NOT kept undercover is at risk, not perhaps in 2008, but the ravages of the British climate will get it in the end. Whether its considered preserved or not.
So on that basis the following are in danger(I am probably wrong in some cases).
1. HP Herald DX indoors?
2. Brittania Is the DX one now indoors?
3. Belfast
4. Nimrod Will the RAF preserve an early one when the time comes.
5. VC10 Again is the one at DX going indoors.
6. Vanguard
7. Viscount
8. Comet
9. Beverley Only one left and that lives outside.
10 Valetta
11 Short 330/360
12 BAC 1-11 DX one indoors?
13 Skyvan
14 Trident DX one indoors?
15 748
16 Heron
17 Prince Just recently remedied
18 Bristol B170
As an example of what happens to large airframes left outside, just look at the past.
1. Hendons Beverley
2. Varsity and T29 at DX
3. BA collection at Cosford.
4. Strathallan Comet and Shackleton
5. Comet at Blackbushe
6. Argonout and Comet at LHR
7. A couple of Vulcans
Richard
[QUOTE=contrailjj;1199422]I’m intrigued by what appears to be an inflatable hangar.
The hangar is a Bessonneau portable one, also known as the Type H, used by the RAF and other air forces since WW1. A small number are still in use, one at Odiham for example being the home of the gliding club. See this web site
http://pagesperso-orange.fr/aircollection/bessonneau2.htm
Richard
Thats what I was going to say, but surely the XF15C-1 is a twin, albeit one up front huffing and puffing and one down back sucking and blowing, Scorpion89 said it wasnt a twin.
Oh and I got it from the link.
And if its a bomb bay door is it from a Vengeance or Buccaneer(Bermuda).
Happy Christmas.
Regards Richard
Is the aircraft in the film clip possibly a Yugoslav example (as Adrian Gray suggests) as they had over 30 available at the time of German invasion. They had a licence production line going and one was converted to DB601A power which flew in early 1941. Is there any photographic record of that.
Richard
Scorpion89
Is the first item a weapon bay door, although I dont know from which aircraft. Not Avenger,Helldiver,Guardian as far as I can see.
The second I know, but not due to knowledge of aircraft, it is a twin though. So I am not saying yet.
Richard
Camlobe
These were EC121R versions of Navy WV-2 and -3’s. Always fascinated me as details only emerged some years after the use of these aircraft.
A good site here tells all.
http://personalpages.tdstelme.net/~westin/batcat0.htm
Richard
For the first one obviously—–Main landing gear door, possibly Constellation.
For the second——– A little bird says its something made by Mr Curtiss
Richard
[QUOTE=XN923;1195735] I dare say the Hurri was pretty worn out and in all other respects would have been well below the performance of the 109. I imagine the newer machines with metal wing and DH/Rotol prop closed the gap somewhat.
I would have thought the opposite was possibly the case, the early aircraft being lighter would turn better.
How about the
P.149 of 1969 for the RAF, that was a further development of the P.145 with a number of avionic modules including a Ferranti Inertial nav system for search, terrain following, ranging and ground mapping. An alternative to the Rocket assisted take off was a RB.162 engine fitted in the tail, the airbrakes being opened 20 degrees during operation.
P.157 A close air support version, with a stretched foreward fuselage to allow the fitment of a twin gunpack, tandem twin wheel main undercarriage units an APU and a braking parachute. This version would have had blown flaps and ailerons giving a 35% reduction in ground roll. In service date was to be 1981/2.
Richard
From THE ROYAL FLYING CORPS A HISTORY by Geoffrey Norris.
March 4th 1912 Colonel Seely, Under-Secretary of Stat for War, rose to present the Army Estimates, he announced that he had appointed a committee, of which Lord Haldene was chairman. This committee was to set up a Royal Flying Corps to embrace “soldiers, sailors and civilians” . No one would hold executive rank unless he were an expert flyer. The present air battalion would cease to exist and would be absorbed into the new corps. The head-quarters would be at Netherton (should this read Netheravon?) on Salisbury plain, and a large tract of land had to be purchased for this purpose for the sum of £90,000.
The Royal Flying Corps was constituted on 13th May 1912.
Thanks for the video Octane, gave me goose bumps listening to that sound.
One story I remember is when Neil Williams was flying at the RAE Farnborough, he was tasked with taking a Hastings to foggy Bedford, the plan being that if the vis was too bad they would return to Farnborough.
On the way there he could hear another aircraft talking to the Bedford Controller as it flew circuits, so he assumed the fog was not too bad.
He did his approach and all the way down could see nothing, then just as he was about to abort the landing the runway lights came out of the fog.
Out of interest he waited near the runway to see what the other a/c, who seemed so happy in the bad conditions,was. Then a Varsity with BLIND LANDING EXPERIMENTAL UNIT painted on trundled past.
I always remember him best at Old Warden, hopping from one type to another, from the Spit to the Boxkite, the Yak11 to the Bleriot, then doing a superb aerobatic routine in a Pitts. Sadly missed.
This was close in some respects to a F104 that is apart from performance.
Martin Mars would do nicely.