How difficult would it be to come up with scaled down SSN for an SSK?

Don’t know about the tides in the area but the Varyag isn’t something you want to let drift around on a wim. She represents a fairly big shipping hazard so the tugs would need to keep her in close check. Actually if you look at the recent pics of the INS Vikramaditya being towed out they are doing pretty much what is being done with the Varyag:

Agree, but difference of Varyag with INS Vikramaditya is that the latter has al this stuff welded to her a>$>$ so there is something for the tugs to push up against. Unlike Varyag, which has no a>$>$-enhancements.

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She had several tugs in close attendance, if it was a short move they might not want to set up a full tow line but rather nudge her in the direction they want.

a tug each on the port and starboard frontflanks for steering and a couple of tugs in the rear for moving. What would those latter tugs be pushing up against? Rudders?

What are the tides and streams doing overthere (could you just float her, using the natural flows and current, with tugs just for steering and braking?)

The issue was not Hawk > Goshawk
Rather it was Goshawk > Goshawk-100/200 versus AMX-ATA2 > Naval AMX

It has no engines. It may be moving to be refitted. That may include propulsion machinery.

It may also be moving just to make space at the quay, but taken with the fact that it has had some work done on it recently, including painting, and the fact that noises out of China are that they are embarking on a carrier programme…..

…of course this is news. Whether this will culminate in any ground breaking changes is another matter.

Moving it may have freed up pierside space, but it is now taking up drydock space … it all depends on what will happen in the drydock. Fitting out would not (need to) take place in the drydock.

Would be a perfect solution for the Brazilian Navy!:D

Which would in that case likely prefer a derivative of the local AMX-ATA, for obvious reasons.

If they were so quiet Wan why was that SQR-19 quite so long an array! 🙂

Seriously they were blue water platforms with the intent to get detects at least 2CZ’s off with the tail before Sov SSN’s of the vintage could get much of a sniff. Were they ‘quiet’?. Only in the sense that they were less noisy than the equivalent steam and turbine powered escorts of the day.

Same sort of thing as the Victor-III’s. Were they quiet and discrete…..compared to Vic-1 and -II yes. See my point?! :p

Well, the all Gtu plant helped. The propulsion machinery is very quiet. The whole engine installations are insulated against the own noise and that promotes the ASUW and the operation of the sonar installations. Also, IIRC they had the PRAIRIE-MASKER hull and propeller bubbler systems installed to enhance their quietness.

The Spruance class as was commissioned between 1975 and 1983. It was the first U.S. ship class to use gas-turbine propulsion and advanced self-noise reduction technology and a high degree of automation. By contrast, the first Type 23 was commissioned in 1989 and preceeded by at least 2 classes of Gtu powered ships! Thus unfair to compare to the much later Type 23.

The later Arleigh Burke destroyers are powered by the same drive train as the Ticonderoga cruisers and Spruance destroyers, namely four General Electric LM 2500 gas turbine engines (LM 2500-30 gas turbine engines in the case of the Flight IIA ships). Propulsion is provided by two shafts with variable pitch screws. They too have the PRAIRIE-MASKER system.

What sensors/electronics have been chosen for the ship(ex-Baku, now AD. Gorsh., to be Vikramaditya)?

Who will create/install the command and control suite (hardware+software) for the ship?
Or will the ship retain and run on the old stuff?

According to online information on the ship it had some sort of experimental phased array radar and some soviet anti submarine suite.

http://www.globalsecurity.org/military/world/russia/1143.htm

Judging from models and CGs, she will be fitted with a radar out of the Fregaet MAE line plus a larger Podberezovik long range (500km) 3D air search/surveillance radar (like the one installed on Kara class cruiser Kerch)