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  • in reply to: Indian Navy : News & Discussion – V #2015095
    Wanshan
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    from the article…

    both CO & XO gets the same picture at the consoles and w.r.t XO, this is what it says…

    this probably means XO needs to assign what weapons needs to be employed for the specific threat and the system only presents him the options to choose from for engaging the target. It means a manual input (operator) for the actions.

    But this one w.r.t CO says…

    What does he mean by ‘electronically’…? A touch screen input instead of physical inputs like buttons?

    Final HUMAN decision, otherwise AUTOMATED (man in the loop). Wouldn’t surprise me if there is a ‘full auto’ setting… Anyway, very reminiscent of Russian ‘second captain’ system: computer handles optimization of the engagement, it will be difficult (risky for career) to diverge from DSS ‘advice’.

    in reply to: INS Vikramaditya: Steaming towards Induction #2015097
    Wanshan
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    She is a good lookin ship!
    The Indian Navy should be very proud and I’m sure She will have a very exciting and extended service life.

    I agree, the conversion is actually quite elegant. In a way, it is too bad the same was not possible for her 3 sisterships…

    in reply to: Is there any point in VTOL Strike Aircraft today? #2289117
    Wanshan
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    Everyone DOES know that nobody’s minds are being changed here, right?

    Yup. Please send king size steak from VA Beach asap!!!

    in reply to: Indian Navy : News & Discussion – V #2015172
    Wanshan
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    Here photos of Teg, when she as in Hamburg:

    http://www.modellmarine.de/index.php?option=com_imagebrowser&view=gallery&folder=teg-hamburg&Itemid=55
    Source

    Interesting, unlike Talwar ‘batch 1’, Teg does not have Kashtan CIWS`but merely a single pair of AK630, which is like the 11356Ms being built for Russia. Makes me wonder whether the IN will bolt on some Barak VLUs and Elta STIR. Or is there possibly something wrong with Kashtan-M? Or is it simply weight penalty of Brahmos use…?

    http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7238/7287860496_7bb2a532fd_z.jpg

    http://farm9.staticflickr.com/8161/7278573146_071e31ee0b_z.jpg

    in reply to: Indian Navy : News & Discussion – V #2015176
    Wanshan
    Participant

    ^^^ thanks man for digging it all. I’d missed that blog entry. But after reading it, I’m little more confused than earlier. 😀

    “Network-centric” is the new buzzword that defines the high-tech combat of today. The Shivalik is supremely well equipped for the new digital battlefield.

    In the days of cannon and sail, a warship’s Captain directed battle from the ship’s Bridge, from where he could observe what was happening as the combatants closed in, raking each other with cannon-fire. Today it all happens at far longer ranges. Battle, for the Shivalik’s Captain, would be a high-stakes video game conducted from an Operations Room, the enemy only a blip on a radar screen.

    The nerve centre of the Shivalik’s battlefield capability is an indigenous design triumph called the AISDN (short for ATM-based Integrated Services Digital Network). This is a backbone network that allows all electronic information from the Shivalik’s systems and sensors — e.g. engines, navigation devices, radars, weaponry, radio sets and control systems — to be transmitted digitally all over the warship on a common data base. Designed by Bharat Electronics Limited (BEL) in partnership with Centre for Development of Telematics (C-DOT), this common carrier takes vital information to the Shivalik’s commanders in real time on multi-function displays.

    “This is as good, if not better than comparable systems on any warship in the world”, says Captain Sunder. “On earlier warships, weapons had a separate data bus, sensors had their own bus, and so on. Now, the AISDN integrates all that, and also information coming from sensors outside the Shivalik, such as from Unmanned Aerial Vehicles (UAVs) or Airborne Warning and Control Systems (AWACS).”

    Taking feed from AISDN, is another network, the Computer-aided Action Information Organisation (CAIO), which brings to the captain a complete electronic picture of the battlefield. This is the heart of the weapons exploitation system, laying out for the Captain all the information about targets being picked up by the warship’s sensors and radars.

    This will also be transmitted to the ship’s Executive Officer (XO), the second-in-command after the Captain, and the man responsible for the ship’s weaponry. From his console, the XO electronically assigns each detected target to one of his weapons.

    When the Shivalik’s radars detect an enemy aircraft, the CAIO will show it up on the consoles automatically. The CAIO includes a Decision Support System that will suggest what to use to shoot down the aircraft; the final decision, though, is that of the commanding officer. He could decide to use the 76mm gun; the command will go electronically from his console to that of the gunnery officer controlling the gun. Alternatively, he could choose to use a missile. Either way, the detection, the information, the allocation of a weapon to the target and the actual engagement itself, would all be done electronically.

    Assisting the Captain in managing the battle would be a multi-function, touch-screen console called the Integrated Versatile Console System (IVCS), providing pinpoint navigational information, the ship’s course, position, and its engine parameters.

    The ship’s movements are controlled through an Integrated Machinery Control System (IMCS) that links all the ship’s engines and other auxiliary machinery, via optic fibre cabling, to various control points. The Shivalik’s four generators, which together produce 4 Megawatts of power, enough to light up a small city, are controlled through the Automated Power Management System (APMS), which senses the requirement of power at all times. No sailors are needed to constantly monitor power requirement or to switch on and off the generators.

    The Shivalik is also equipped for the nuclear and chemical battlefield. It is the navy’s first ship with a Total Atmospheric Control System (TACS), which filters all air going into the ship at all times, including the air being used by the engines. This would remove radioactive, chemical and biological impurities, protecting the crew and the systems. For this reason, the Shivalik is centrally air-conditioned and has no portholes. There are also decontamination facilities on board in case the ship passes through an area where the radioactivity from a nuclear strike still lingers.

    http://ajaishukla.blogspot.nl/2009/03/visit-to-ins-shivalik-indias-newest.html
    Also use: http://ajaishukla.blogspot.nl/search?q=shivalik

    in reply to: INS Vikramaditya: Steaming towards Induction #2015194
    Wanshan
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    I think this shows the 3 fire extinguishers, in red, along the port flight deck edge.
    http://i1061.photobucket.com/albums/t471/kuleshovoleg/ins%20vikramaditya/i7m_T5-ca1Y.jpg

    in reply to: Venezuela transferred at least one F-16 to Iran #2290118
    Wanshan
    Participant

    WHat did Venezuela get out of this delivery (if it happened)?

    in reply to: Su-17M4 #2292221
    Wanshan
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    in reply to: Is there any point in VTOL Strike Aircraft today? #2292227
    Wanshan
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    I think that’s a popular western misconception.

    Yefim Gordon’s ‘Soviet Jump Jets’ (Red Star Vol. 36) has an interesting table of attrition stats for VTOL aircraft.

    I won’t type all of it but the following rows are interesting….

    …………………..USA….UK….USSR

    Total aircraft…. 110…..105……45
    No of Accidents.. 29……28…….10
    Pilots Lost……….10……..9….None

    Dunno wwhere the stats come from – or whether they are accurate – but it seems it wasn’t the ‘death trap’ of western propaganda.

    The Yak-38 had marginal performance, but it was first gen for the Soviets – so cut it some slack.

    Ken

    Agree. Would be interesting to add numbers operated to this table plus e.g. sorties or hours flow.

    in reply to: PLAN News Thread #4 #2015453
    Wanshan
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    WOW! Great design there.:eek: It is telling when China can design and build its own LPDs while Russia has to import Western designs

    1 design was chosen for import (a first in recent – post ww2 – history)

    It is not a given that Russia cannot design it own LPD (choosing not to is a different thing). See e.g. Ivan Rogov class (Project 1174).
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ivan_Rogov_class_landing_ship

    And then there’s a few that were designed but never built e.g:

    Project 10200

    http://img154.imageshack.us/img154/2029/project10200halzanaswheog9.jpg

    http://img380.imageshack.us/img380/5199/project1020021yw8tp.jpg

    Project 11780

    http://maquetland.com/v2/images_articles/project%2011780__.jpg

    http://maquetland.com/v2/images_articles/project%2011780.jpg

    http://alternathistory.org.ua/files/users/user2212/P1000371_sm.jpg

    And others:

    http://alternathistory.org.ua/files/users/user2212/img6342.jpg

    in reply to: INS Vikramaditya: Steaming towards Induction #2015459
    Wanshan
    Participant

    Thanks Wanshan, yeah I can see the two on the hanger.
    Witcha also gave the link and its now clear.

    FIre extinguishing equipment tend to be painted red …. :diablo:

    in reply to: INS Vikramaditya: Steaming towards Induction #2015463
    Wanshan
    Participant

    http://balancer.ru/cache/sites/c/s/cs301113.userapi.com/v301113999/1abe/800x600/h2Zo0GqeweY.jpg

    in reply to: INS Vikramaditya: Steaming towards Induction #2015482
    Wanshan
    Participant

    ^^ Wanshan,

    Yes, but I’m not sure, maybe you are right…. but on the Vik, there are suppose to be three water cannons to cover the aircraft parking area

    Compare Delhi class, forward corners of the hangar section of the superstructure, just aft of the rear funnel.

    http://www.bharat-rakshak.com/NAVY/Images/Delhi5.jpghttp://milparade.udm.ru/25/0821.jpg
    http://milparade.udm.ru/25/082.htm

    in reply to: Navies news from around the world -IV #2015550
    Wanshan
    Participant

    Iran to Build 10 New Warships

    Sina FACs and Mowj corvettes: to replace aging hull no doubt..

    in reply to: INS Vikramaditya: Steaming towards Induction #2015558
    Wanshan
    Participant

    Probably testing their fire-fighting cannons…. one is also at the stern @port side and one at front…

    http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-Dnq4-erDT8Q/T8Sdp7AUZnI/AAAAAAAAAQw/yUMssE7IDMY/s1600/IMG_7376.JPG

    In case you’re referring to that double barrelled thingy, I was under the disctinct impression that was a piece of ECM (PK-2 decoy launcher system).

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