Too bad she isn’t all VLU equipped 🙂
As the title says for the RAN, I will continue on that line. I said originally F35C, and I stick with that, although we would need a carrier to go with it. That for me is a better result than F35B’s off ships that were not intended to fly them.
Are you (seriously) suggesting that Navantia’s Buque de Proyección Estratégica (Strategic Projection Vessel) was not designed with F-35B (also) in mind?
F35B (for decks currently coming)
Packing some nice tech for her size; she’ll be the ideal compliment to the Stereguschy class.
Does the Buyan class have ASW armament?
Presently not. Future variant could.

http://img-fotki.yandex.ru/get/5905/1613516.52/0_87c9e_595fc153_XXXL.jpg
Parked next to a project 1204 Shmel river monitor.

Sigma have got a new competitor from Russia and it would be better for Vietnam to invest in these… The new design is based on the Pr.21631 Buyan-M, which is modified version of the Pr.21630 Buyan. These can definitely compliment the Gepards.
These would be very good for not just Vietname but also for Indonesia who have got lot of Islands spread across to patrol. The Russian option definetely would be cheaper than the European ones. Till now Russia did not have a class of ship to compete with Sigma, but it looks like JSC Zelenodlsk Design Bureau have come up with a right sized one.
The gun on the model appears to be a 57mm naval gun… Overall, the hull is simlar to Grisha. +/- 1000 tons.
Sigma have got a new competitor from Russia and it would be better for Vietnam to invest in these… The new design is based on the Pr.21631 Buyan-M, which is modified version of the Pr.21630 Buyan. These can definitely compliment the Gepards.
These would be very good for not just Vietname but also for Indonesia who have got lot of Islands spread across to patrol. The Russian option definetely would be cheaper than the European ones. Till now Russia did not have a class of ship to compete with Sigma, but it looks like JSC Zelenodlsk Design Bureau have come up with a right sized one.
Sigma <> Buyan-M
ARE THEY COMPARABLE SHIPS?!?
Displacement:
550 Tons (project 21630)
949 Tons (project 21631)
Length:
62 m (203 ft) (21630)
74.1 m (243 ft) (21631)
Beam:
9.6 m (31 ft) (21630)
11 m (36 ft) (21631)
Height: 6.57 m (22 ft)
Draft:
2 m (7 ft) (21630)
2.6 m (9 ft) (21631)
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Buyan_class_corvette
Sigma stands for Ship Integrated Geometrical Modularity Approach. The ship’s main dimensions are named in the types itself, SIGMA 9113 stands for 91 meters long and 13 meters wide, same is with the SIGMA 10513, 105 meters in length and 13 meters wide.
Indonesia has four 9113 class corvettes (1,692 tons) in active service by 2009 and in August 2010 has signed a deal to build frigate PKR 105 based on SIGMA 10514 in PT PAL Shipyard Indonesia. (2400 tons)
Morocco has ordered two 9813 class heavy corvettes (with VLS) 2075 tons and a light 10513 class frigate based on a modified design. 2335 tons
Vietnam has negotiated four SIGMA in October 2011 by Prime Minister Nguyen Tan Dung’s visiting to Netherlands. The Dutch Schelde shipyard in Vlissingen, Netherlands will build four Sigma corvettes for the Vietnamese Navy. The first two ships will be built in Vlissingen, and the last two will be built in Vietnam, under Dutch supervision
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sigma_class_corvette
http://defense-update.com/20111023_vietnam-negotiate-buying-four-sigma-corvettes-from-the-netherlands.html
Noteworthy in this context:
Schelde is expecting to become even more integrated within the Damen Shipyards Group. Damen is planning to develop “more and better standard products” and will be investing in shipyards in countries with “competitive wages.” One such is Vietnam, where Damen is building a large shipyard that’s slated to start operations in 2010, which in the longer term will also provide opportunities for Schelde
This cooperation works both ways.
http://www.aviationweek.com/aw/generic/story_generic.jsp?channel=dti&id=news/DTISIGMA.xml&headline=Schelde%20Sees%20Bright%20Future%20for%20Sigma%20Modular%20Ship&next=20
Damen has indeed acquired a yard in Vietnam: Damen SongCam Shipyard (Haiphong, Vietnam)
http://www.damen.nl/en/companies/damen-songcam-shipyard
Damen Shipyards has signed an agreement with the Vietnam Shipbuilding Industry Group (Vinashin) in Hanoi, one of the larger Vietnamese state-owned enterprises, for the joint building and exploitation of a wharf/yard in Haiphong. That yard will be named Damen Vinashin Shipyard. Vinashin has designated the Song Cam Shipyard as local partner. The first phase is to be completed februari 2012.
The yard will deliver about 12 ships per annum. All orders are to date for export. The yard will gave a Syncrolift shiplift, with a capacity of 2500 ton, a finishing hall of 80 by 40 meters and various workbuildins and offices. In the second phase of the five-year plan the capacity will be extended to max. 30 workboats, tugs and fast craft per year in the finishing hall of 160 by 150 meters. The 42 hectare site also has enough room for subcontractors and suppliers.
http://www.schuttevaer.nl/nieuws/scheepsbouw-en-reparatie/nid14457-damen-bouwt-nieuwe-werf-in-vietnam.html
http://www.shipbuilding-industry.eu/shipbuilding_v2/?p=2200
http://stopwapenhandel.org/node/1138
On the four ship deal:
http://www.pzc.nl/regio/9590276/Vietnam-bestelt-vier-korvetten-bij-Schelde-Marinebouw-Vlissingen.ece
http://www.omroepzeeland.nl/audio/damen-over-schepen-voor-vietnam
http://www.defensenews.com/article/20111110/DEFSECT03/111100301/Vietnam-Talks-Buy-4-Sigma-class-Corvettes
Damen Group has already delivered some Damen Stan 4207 patrol vessels for search and rescue missions.
The Vietnam Marine Police also cooperated with Damen Group to build large vessels with Dutch license, such as one offshore patrol vessel 9014, one hydrographic survey vessel 6613, four salvage tugs 6412.[7][8] These vessels will be built in Vietnam by the Song Thu company.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Damen_Group#Vietnam_Marine_Police
Much of the criticism is indeed BS, but at least there’s a nice collection of pics.:D
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Yeah. What’s that pic overlooking the Kuz deck across cargo vessel into the harbor area: what sub is sitting their abadoned and sunk?
Low right: A Suncraft
Nigerian OTTER LANDING CRAFT(UTILITY)

top right is a rnzn protector class opv.
for the last one i pass. most likely a service craft or a small patrol craft but a small landing craft is also possible.
Indeed
we plan to transfer the carrier to India by December 4
😀
Typical Bill Sweetman article… no mention of the USMC’s operation of over 200 second-generation Harriers… including from ships (the whole focus of the article).
It also ignores Turkey’s intention to obtain an LHA/D, and is looking at e.g. the South Korean Dokdo. Which would introduce a third navy with a ‘carrier’ to the Med. area. And Turkey is (still) part of the JSF club (Level III partner).
You do know the Photo is of HMS Invincible on her way to be scrapped in Turkey last year ?
No I didn’t and it doesn’t chance my sentiment a bit :dev2:
what a sad sight. RIP
Having watched the series on her final tour, yes, it certainly is. But I guess all good things come to an end. And she still looks proud with her perky skijump and all 😉