Same here:p
Remember that Halifax throttle box on ebay?
Cees
For what’s it worth (but I am biased of course).
Apart from performance and design difficulties The Halifax and Stirling fuselages were obviously roomier as compared to the Lancaster, and (I can only speak about my experiences in the Elvington example) the Halifax mainspar was not much of an obstacle. Due to the bulky flying gear it would be difficult to escape from the various exits for any given type. For example, the rear entry door of the Lanc was next to the horizontal stabilizer and I have read various stories about how dangerous it would be to evacuate with the possibility of hitting the tail with all due consequenses.
The Halifax also had, in case of a forced landing, a habit of breaking up in the main subassemblies, which absorbed the impact but gave the crewmembers inside a good chance for survival. In case of having to evacuate the aircraft in mid air and the possibilties of the enormous centrifugal forces it would be difficult again in any type to escape. It’s all to do about statistics probably.
Some reports stated that the brave Lancastercrews were sent earlier to bear the brunt of the attack and the poor old Halifaxes would come later to finish it off making it “easier” for them, also that Halifaxes were sent to easier targets, there was no such thing as an easy target. In reality the defences would be surprised by the Lancasters and fully operational as a result of it to await the rest of the main force such as the Halifaxes/ Stirlings. In any case again statistics and luck, experience etc etc. There are enough reports that the loss rate of Lancasters was also unacceptable.
What I want to know is that the number of Halifax lost in total never exeeds 2.000 examples but the general total loss rate for the Lancaster is 3.500 (roughly taken) while the total number of Halifaxes built was 6.178 and over 7.000 Lancasters.
Cheers
Cees
Not this one, but I have the Halifax one and seen the Lancaster one too and the quality is fabulous. Everything you wanted to know about the type represented and more (apart from the kitchen sink, but I could have missed that one as there is soo much information).
Recommended.
How about one on the a Blenheim/Bolingbroke or Defiant or or or or
Cees
Sucks doesn’t it?
Cees
So bring up the pilots and the aircraft. Give the men the fitting burial they
deserve and let the next of kin close a long standing chapter in their family histories and preserve the aircraft in their name.
Just my personal feeling of course.
Cees
Any pics of the Hampden restoration, or is that part closed off to the public?
Cees
Elliott,
If this helps, when we recovered the first Stirling that came down on Dutch soil we also found yellow primer on the interior of the skinning. Subsequent similar digs on later built aircraft never had this, so could be a prewar thing that was soon discontinued perhaps?
Cheers
Cees
At least they survive to this day, otherwise none would be left. I believe it was standard procedure to crop the blades when one was unservicable.
Cees
Welcome back,
What an entrance:p
So, get on with the job, what’s the latest news on the restoration of any of FlyPast’s favourite aircraft (no not the Lancaster).
Cees
What’s the status on the Baltic Whitley? Will it ever be recovered or even, is it substantial enough for a recovery?
Cees
Follow up on the N1521 investigation.
Today we spent a windy and very wet day at the lake. Over the years it has become even more shallow than it was and it’s now about a meter in depth. The divers we used didn’t need any oxygen bottles. The lake had been deepened a few years ago and a survey had been carried out which showed that there are still concentrations of metal scattered around. Today was unfortunatly difficult due to the weather ( I was wet and cold to the bone, and the hot shower worked wonders). But we found an oxygen bottle as well as an accumulator with .. 10-40 (oktober 1940) painted on it. We hope to get back again when the conditions are better or when the lake is frozen hopefully. The nose gunner is still missing and his name can be found at the Runnymede Memorial, So watch this space.
Cees
Focke Wulf Falke or Weihe?
Cees
Can’t they accept leaving a war grave alone? It’s only contentious because the aircraft wrecks are valuable.
Who says it’s a wargrave? Only because some civil servant says so?
Those pilot’s didn’t ask to be left down there. There is a difference between
intentional burial and an accident with fatal consequences.
We should ask the next of kin instead of the gouvernment. You would be surprised to hear their opinion.:rolleyes:
Cheers
Cees
http://forum.keypublishing.co.uk/showthread.php?t=95547
And how about this restoration project to fly?
Cees
Come on Peter, you are biased of course:diablo::p
Hope to get mine this afternoon.
Cees