Dear VRT
Whose idea was that awful typeface in the e-bay ad for the front seat?
That apart, what a fantastic opportunity. Regrettably not one I can take on that date.
Moggy
Don’t worry – the typesetter will be beaten to within an inch of his sorry life! I’ll see if I can get him to change it!
Just to clarify. The two engines now held by the VRT are part of a ‘swap’ for XH558’s current noseleg, not a loan – don’t know where that rumour started. Just the good old Vulcan community looking after one another!:D
Southend’s long enough:D
Not to mention Elvington…
Elvington certainly is but I’m afraid Southend’s about 1000ft too short, I’ve already made enquiries!
It is actually TVOC that are up there at the moment Dave, my apologies. Will your group be going to see if there is anything useful?
You never know!
It is a shame that XM603 has to become another casualty but of all the surviving Vulcans it has always suffered from the fact that it was extremely difficulty for the public to get close to or even see. The combination of BAE Systems’ strict enforcement of H&S minutae and the XM603 Club’s doomed membership requirements (only ex-Avro staff who built the Vulcan) spelt the end for this airframe many years ago. I would rather lose 603 than one of the museum examples.
That’s the guy. Did you know him/meet him J man?
I’ve heard from one of my sources that the VRT have made a trip to Woodford in the last few days… 🙁
I can assure you that the VRT have certainly NOT been up at Woodford at all. Are you confusing us with another group?
Frankly, I don’t see what all the fuss is about with regard to money.
I agree – don’t know why they’ve been making such a fuss!
:diablo: :confused:
I have to take my hat off to the VTS Club, Robert, Dave T and Sean Maffett whose recent publicity has consisted of solid, no-nonsense, honest promotion rather than the irritating PR gobbledegook which has dogged the campaign up until now. Onward financial support is still a massive hurdle and one shouldn’t shy away from commenting on it – complacency/stagnation has hit this project on more than one occasion, especially after an over-confident PR exercise. Sure, celebrate this massive good fortune but she ain’t flying yet and this campaign is far from over, as we all know. I raise a cautious glass!
It rather depends from which point of view. If she was to be scrapped (perish the thought), the value is practically nothing. The VRT have to calculate the liability of XL426 by valuing how much it would cost to remove her from Southend Airport (purely hypothetical, I can assure you!). We had a professional quote and on the basis that we could sell the cockpit section, we worked out that we could cover the costs of scrapping including removal of the asbestos. The days of making vast sums from scrapping aircraft are over – Health and Safety have seen to that. As a potentially live airframe, well it’s a buyer’s market – the value is whatever someone will pay for it.
Oh, and before anyone says, I know that the scrap merchants who disposed of XL391 made a profit for the owner but, looking at the photographs, the asbestos linings were conveniently overlooked as they mashed the airframe!
How sad to be having these conversations….
Yeah – we’re saving up for the next repaint – it’d be nice to have it done professionally with a really good protective coating but that does run to a few quid! Many thanks to those who came and supported us despite the foul weather!
Certainly will be – I was under XL426 this evening “helping” with some brake overhauls. By helping, I mean making facetious remarks and generally getting on everyones’ nerves!
We have a huge marquee so don’t worry about the weather. There’s also a bar so you needn’t worry about being sober either! What could be better?
Seriously, we’d really appreciate the support – the Vulcan’s an expensive old beast to run and Southend ain’t exactly a cheap home for her.
Hopefully I’ll get Bruce Dickinson to say a few words over the P.A. system before he straps in.
Love the bit about the Vulcan ‘bristling with guns’ and yet having no defensive armament. However, it’s only the Daily Menopause, so it doesn’t really matter!
Benefitting financially – which is a return.
I have to agree, sponsorship is an investment requiring a return. A great deal of the aviation enthusiast fraternity think that ‘return’ means ‘being associated with such a prestigious project’. This is complete bull! Return is MONEY. If a company can see that sales of their wares will increase by significantly more than the amount they invest, it’s a deal. If not, it’s a turkey.
Aircraft sponsorship exists but the levels of investment reflect the fact that airshows are not televised and do not get newspaper coverage and they do not have international appeal. The levels of investment needed here are huge – way beyond any possible return, in my opinion.
Philanthropy is the only way forward – unconditional cash – like the donations we have all made, except bigger!
Dave
Been a Maiden fan since early 80s. Is Bruce doing any signing setions (for a fee) in ade of your Vulcan?
I’m sure he will – he’s an extremely nice chap!
I can assure you that the build is not finished and I don’t think anyone from VTTS would want that impression given – it would rather dry up the income stream, don’t you think? The rollout has been designed as a publicity exercise in order to attract sponsors, rather than a rollout in the more traditional ‘airliner’ sense of the word which comes weeks if not days before first flight.
The laying off of staff from 31st August is seriously bad news for the project which has a long way to go. Whilst I understand that there is a reluctance to say anything negative for fear of upsetting the apple-cart, blindly ignoring pretty solid evidence that staff have been given notice is very head-in-the-sand.
Presumably the next VTTS Statement will explain…