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  • in reply to: Jet STOVL light transport #2506421
    Bager1968
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    Because you cannot get the glider back out?

    Which then lets everyone know, as soon as its daylight, that an insertion has taken place?

    And you cannot extract the team with your cheap glider?

    Westland Lysander.

    in reply to: IJN carriers #2046854
    Bager1968
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    Time to nitpick Ja…
    “is mute on the bases”

    should be “is moot on the basis”

    in reply to: IJN carriers #2047106
    Bager1968
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    The maximum capacity of Shinano was to be ~135 aircraft… of which only 45 would be flight-ready. The others were to be made flight-ready as aircraft were lost from the entire force… and, as Tiornu said, she was to act as a forward servicing base.

    in reply to: EA-18G #2509051
    Bager1968
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    ” they will never ever buy a Navy aircraft!”

    After the horrible fiascos they had when buying the Navy-designed F-4 Phantom and A-7 Corsair? 😀

    in reply to: US Spy Satellite Shot Down That Was Attacking Iran #2510300
    Bager1968
    Participant

    Ahh… the Russian equivilant of National Enquirer… all the news we can make up or distort.

    in reply to: Future Monitor #2047356
    Bager1968
    Participant

    And just how much per ton does that nano-tech uber-material cost?

    Oh, that’s right… they have yet to make any multi-hundred ton lots yet, have they?

    in reply to: India Interested in the Kitty Hawk (CV-63)? What? #2047626
    Bager1968
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    That was CVN-74 John C Stennis, which was in for some refit work.

    The photos are of the USN facility at Bremerton, Washington… which handles both mothballed ships and active ships needing rework.

    Bremerton handles the Pacific Fleet ships, while Norfolk, Virginia (and other east-coast facilities) handle Atlantic Fleet ships (like CV-59 Forrestal, CV-60 Saratoga, and CV-67 John F. Kennedy).

    from Wiki-waki:

    CV-59:
    Forrestal was decommissioned 11 September 1993 at Pier 6E in Philadelphia, and was stricken from the Naval Vessel Register the same day. After being stricken, ex-Forrestal was heavily stripped to support the rest of the carrier fleet. In 1999, the USS Forrestal Museum Inc. began a campaign to obtain the ship from the Navy via donation, for use as a museum, to be located in Baltimore, but this plan was not successful. The Navy removed the ship from donation hold in 2004 and redesignated it for disposal. According to the NVR, her final status is “donated for use as fishing reef.” In 2007, the ship is currently being environmentally prepared for sinking as an artificial reef. Due to elements of the “Forrestal” design having led directly to current aircraft carrier design, the ship will be donated to a State and sunk in a deep water reef, for fishery propagation, so that it is inaccessible to divers. The date for the sinking has not yet been announced.

    CV-60:
    Saratoga was decommissioned at the Naval Station, Mayport, Florida, on 20 August 1994, and stricken from the Naval Vessel Register the same day. She was towed to Philadelphia in May 1995, then, upon deactivation of the Philadelphia Navy Yard in August 1998, to Newport, Rhode Island. There, she was first placed on donation hold, then her status was changed to “disposal as an experimental ship”, and finally she was returned to donation hold on 1 January 2000. While a hulk at Newport, ex-Saratoga, like her sisters, has been extensively stripped to support the active carrier fleet. There is an active and strongly supported effort to make her a museum ship in North Kingstown.

    Saratoga received one battle star for service in the Vietnam War.

    CV-61:
    Ranger was decommissioned on 10 July 1993, and is at the Naval Inactive Ship Maintenance Facility, Bremerton, Washington. As of 2004, a nonprofit organization is working to bring ex-Ranger to Portland, Oregon to serve as a naval and aerospace museum, educational center, and a setting for special events.

    Ranger earned 13 battle stars for service in Vietnam.

    USS Ranger Memorial Association website: http://www.ussrangercv61.org/scuttlebutt/index.php

    CV-62:
    Independence was decommissioned in ceremonies at the Puget Sound Naval Shipyard in Bremerton, Washington, on 30 September 1998. Independence’s commissioning pennant was hauled down 39 years, 9 months and 20 days after it was first hoisted, and the “Don’t Tread on Me” First Navy Jack was transferred to the Navy’s next oldest active ship, Kitty Hawk (CV-63).
    After decommissioning, Independence remained in mothballs for five and a half years before being struck on March 8, 2004. During her time in mothballs, ex-Independence was said to have been heavily stripped to support the active carrier fleet, especially the Kitty Hawk-class carriers. Her port anchor and both anchor chains were used on the new Nimitz-class carrier USS George H W Bush. The recycling of parts and the poor material condition of Independence at the time she was retired made a strong argument against retaining her as a potential museum ship. Her sisters Saratoga and Ranger were retained, and remain on donation hold as of 2006. In April, 2004, Navy officials identified her as one of 24 decommissioned ships available to be sunk as artificial reefs.

    CV-64:
    After 41 years of commissioned service, the USS Constellation was decommissioned at the Naval Air Station North Island in San Diego on 7 August 2003. The carrier was towed, beginning 12 September 2003, to the ghost fleet at the Naval Inactive Ship Maintenance Facility, Bremerton, Washington. On 2 December 2003, the ship was stricken (formally removed from the Naval Vessel Register) when Admiral Vern Clark decided against expenditure of maintenance costs. Constellation is currently in Reserve Category X, meaning it receives no maintenance or preservation, and only security against fire, flooding, and pilferage is provided. Reserve Category X applies to ships that have been stricken and are awaiting disposal by scrap, sale to foreign countries, as a designated target in a live fire exercise, memorial, or donation, as applicable.

    CV-66:
    Originally scheduled to undergo Navy SLEP in the late 1990s, CV-66 fell victim to budget cuts and was retired early by the U.S. Navy. She had suffered a major power-plant failure during her last cruise – (“parts went up the flues”, said a crewman). She was decommissioned 9 August 1996 and was stricken from the naval register. Thereafter she was moored at the Inactive Ship Maintenance Facility in Philadelphia, Pennsylvania. Though already decommissioned, she was awarded the 1995 Battenberg Cup in recognition of her crew’s achievements in her last full year in service.

    America was chosen to be a live-fire test and evaluation platform in 2005, to aid the design of future aircraft carriers. There was some objection to a ship being named for the nation being deliberately sunk at sea, and a committee of her former crew members and other supporters attempted to save the ship for use as a museum ship. Their efforts were ultimately unsuccessful. On 25 February 2005 a ceremony to salute the USS America and her crew was held at the ship’s pier in Philadelphia, attended by former crew members and various dignitaries. She departed the Inactive Ship Maintenance Facility on 19 April 2005 to conduct the aforementioned tests.

    The experiments lasted approximately four weeks. The Navy battered America with explosives, both underwater and above the surface, watching from afar and through monitoring devices placed on the vessel. These explosions were designed to simulate attacks by torpedoes, cruise missiles and perhaps a small boat suicide attack like the one that damaged the destroyer USS Cole in Yemen in 2000.

    After the completion of the tests, America was sunk in a controlled scuttling on 14 May 2005 at approximately 1130, although the sinking was not publicized until six days later. At the time, no warship of that size had ever been sunk, and effects were closely monitored; theoretically the tests would reveal data about how supercarriers respond to battle damage. The ship rests 16,860 ft. below the Atlantic Ocean surface, roughly 250 miles off the North Carolina coast.

    Scuttling location

    In response to a Freedom of Information Act request from former USS America veterans at CVN78.com, the U.S. Navy released the exact location where USS America was sunk. The location is 33°09′09″N, 71°39′07″W, around 250 miles (400 km) southeast of Cape Hatteras. The wreck lies in 2,810 fathoms (16,860 feet.)

    CV-67:
    Kennedy was decommissioned on March 23, 2007 at Mayport, FL, 18 months short of 40 years service in the United States Navy. The Kennedy was towed to Norfolk, Va on 26 July 2007. The Inactive Ship Maintenance Facility in Philadelphia is the intended storage berth for the ship. After several months of assurances, river pilots and docking masters changed their minds just days before departure from Florida. They decided pier 4 at the old Navy Yard needed to have a shoaled area near pier 4 dredged before the voyage up the Delaware River could begin.

    The Kennedy arrived at Naval Station Norfolk 31 July on a brief “Port Visit” until her final berth is made ready.

    in reply to: Last Arrest Gear for HMS ARK ROYAL #2047707
    Bager1968
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    “Also it can halt all aircraft regardless of weight or landing speed in the same run out distance.”

    Not necessarily a good thing.
    Stopping a fighter going 130kts+ in the same distance as a E-2 going ~100kts… a lot harder on the fighter airframe and pilot.

    The Mk13 is designed to halt all aircraft regardless of weight or landing speed with the same g-force, regardless of run out distance.

    Much easier on both airframe and aircrew, prolonging the service life of both.

    in reply to: India Interested in the Kitty Hawk (CV-63)? What? #2047711
    Bager1968
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    Wanshan commented: “whether Japan will accept basing a nuclear powered carrier on her sovereign territory.”

    Quite a while ago, Japan agreed to allow a CVN to replace Kitty Hawk in Yokosuka.

    http://www.navycompass.com/news/newsview.asp?c=218409

    “Friday, June 29, 2007
    Adm. Robert Willard, commander, U.S. Pacific Fleet discussed the shift of emphasis from the Atlantic to the Pacific Fleet and the Navy’s evolving maritime strategy during a breakfast meeting in San Diego June 21.

    “Willard spoke specifically about Japan, indicating he lived there on two previous occasions and that he appreciates the friendship that exists between the two nations, and the close nature of the relationship between the two navies.

    He also said he appreciated Japan’s willingness to serve as the homeport of a U.S. Navy nuclear-powered aircraft carrier beginning next year.

    “There are a lot of issues between the U.S. and Japan, not the least of which is the USS George Washington (CVN 73), the nuclear-powered carrier is headed to Japan next year; the Japanese have been gracious enough to be willing to host,” Willard said.”

    in reply to: Indian navy – news folder July 2007 #2047986
    Bager1968
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    Qoute: “”No SLBM of the stated range has been launched,” the spokesman said.”

    Weasel-speak. “of the stated range”

    No, but a SLBM of a different range was launched?

    in reply to: Steve Fossett search uncovers 6 wrecks #1267418
    Bager1968
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    “The Bermuda triangle has nothing on the Rockies!”

    True, but the area Steve is missing in (and the 150 GA crashes) is the Sierra Nevada mountain range.

    While both are N-S ranges with peaks over 12,000′, the Rockies are 500-600 miles to the east, in Colorado (and New Mexico, Wyoming, & Montana).

    The peaks in the Reno area are “only” ~9,000′, and Reno is at 4,500′, while just Colorado has 20 peaks of 14,000+’.

    On April 2, 1997, a USAF A-10 attack plane went missing while on a training flight (left formation over Arizona).

    It was seen over central Colorado the same day, but was not found until April 20.

    The crash site was on the side of a 12,500-foot peak about 15 miles southwest of the resort town of Vail.

    15 miles from an airport and winter/mountain search-and-rescue assets, and it took 18 days to locate!

    http://www.cnn.com/US/9704/20/plane.found.update/

    in reply to: X-47B – How drones will work on carriers #2048606
    Bager1968
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    “A deck handler (also known as a “yellow shirt” in carrier parlance) will use a wrist-mounted display and a hand-held joy stick to maneuver the drone from the hangar bay elevator into position on the flight deck.”

    ““One of the goals we had is we couldn’t change any of the procedures on the flight deck. Our plane had to look like every other plane on the flight deck and act the same way,” said Northrop Grumman UCAV program official, retired Rear Adm. Tim Beard.”

    Really… when ALL other aircraft on the CV are towed from the elevator to the fueling/arming spot? And the engine(s) is/are started there… NOT in the hangar or on the elevator?

    I wonder if he ever saw a flight deck on operation in the last 35 years?

    Vietnam was the last time the USN tried to bring up “hot” aircraft in/from the hangar, and decided it was a bad idea then… and starting the engine on the elevator will be dangerous & slow down use of the elevator.

    in reply to: JMSDF 16DDH #2048738
    Bager1968
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    “No afterburner for F-35 vertical take-off.”

    But much lower t/o weight, and much more fuel used during that take-off.

    Rolling t/o with ski ramp gives significantly higher payload capability and uses less fuel… even using the a/b!

    in reply to: pics aircraft-carrier Graf Zeppelin #2048742
    Bager1968
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    My initial impression is “too close to land-based aircraft anywhere useful”.

    Much like the Central Med for the RN’s CVs… they rarely did more in the Med than ferry in aircraft to Malta… and those they launched at max range and immediately retreated.

    in reply to: INS Vikramaditya delayed until 2011! #2048747
    Bager1968
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    “WHEN DID CARTER BECAME A NUCLEAR SCIENTIST?”

    http://ap.grolier.com/article?assetid=0078990-00

    “Naval Service. Carter received an appointment to the U. S. Naval Academy at Annapolis through his local congressman and graduated 59th in a class of 820 in 1946. In July of that year he married Rosalynn Smith, whose family lived near Plains. Carter’s naval career began with service on battleships, but after two years he was accepted for submarine duty. After serving on the USS Pomfret in the Pacific, he was selected as one of a group of officers to work under Capt. (later Adm.) Hyman Rickover on the nuclear submarine program. Rickover had a profound effect on Carter who, after studying nuclear physics at Union College, Schenectady, N. Y., served on the crew of the nuclear submarine Sea Wolf. In 1953, following the death of his father, Carter resigned from the Navy and returned to Plains to take over the family farm.”

    Ok, long ago and far away, but still a very good background, and I am sure he followed developments in the field both from personal interest and (especially while POTUS [President of the United States] from 1977-1980) from professional interest.

    That said, I don’t agree with a lot of his positions, and sometimes wonder which world he thinks he is living in… the one the rest of us really are in, or the one he thinks exists.

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