wasnt down in the South East by any chance was it Tony ?
In the PPRuNe thread, the victim’s location is listed as:
Location: The New Forest, UK
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“Converted Bomber” would seem to allude to the Mosquitoes used by BOAC during the war for journeys into neutral Sweden (the ‘ball bearing’ run), but this is the first time I’ve heard of them being used for flights into Switzerland.
Given her status (and the near-certainty of aids/staff/servants accompanying her), and the cramped & uncomfortable accommodations of the Mossie conversions, I would expect something along the lines of one of the many 4-engined converted bomber transports.
Examples would be the Liberator transports (LB-30/C.IX) or one of the Halifax transports (C.III/C.VI/C.VII, all converted bomber variants or the purpose-built C.VIII).
Specifically, BOAC received Liberator IIs (re-designated LB-30) from 1942 on, and operated them past the end of the war.
Still I would rather a new builf for the UK then the less then ideal Polar Bjorn.
Yes, but if wishes were horses…
In reality, the choice is “the less then ideal Polar Bjorn”* or nothing!
* Or another second-hand “less then ideal” ship.
Wake me up when they have some aircraft to carry. :rolleyes:
They do… Mitsubishi-built SH-60/UH-60s and AgustaWestland MCH-101/CH-101s.
11 per ship, to be precise.
How old is that pic??
The pic is from Wiki (Italian):
http://it.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:F-210_Musa_ibn_Nusayr.jpg
Data 1990 circa
You would think Italy would want to get rid of these ships and discount them like crazy and just make a potential buyer to pay for new weapons and upgraded electronics.
According to the link in the post with the pic, they have been scrapped.
By September 1944, the Allied forces had taken all of southern and western France, to a line running from the Swiss border ~125 north of Geneva up through Verdun west to just east of Reims then up into Belgium.
Thus, there was a clear straight-line flight-path through Allied-controlled airspace between southern England and Geneva.

I expect that part of the condition issue is that they were stripped of parts to support the 4 sold to Malaysia.
Therefore, to bring them into service someone would have to be gullible enough to buy 2 stripped-out hulks that have been rusting away for 30 years… and pay to have their hulls repaired from all the rusting, and to be completely re-equipped with everything that had been removed or which has rusted to unusability, as well as with more modern equipment.
VC-9C – 3 executive transport aircraft for the United States Air Force.
Three aircraft (73-1681, 73-1682, 73-1683) were delivered to the US Air Force in late 1976.
I also found this (from 2004):
http://www.amarcexperience.com/AMARCArticleC9Retirement.asp
The 89th Airlift Wing operates these aircraft from Andrews AFB, but they themselves are due to be replaced in the near future by the Boeing C-40B, a military version of the Boeing 737-700 commercial airliner.
932nd Airlift Wing – 73rd Airlift Squadron – Based at Scott AFB, IL.
Still operating 3 C-9A Nightingales for AFRES. Transitioning to VC-9C in FY 2006.
Then back to Wiki:
The squadron augmented the active duty 375th Airlift Wing in operating the aeromedical airlift system from, 1969-2005. Since 2005 the 73d has conducted executive airlift.
The 89th Airlift Wing no longer operates VC-9C aircraft.
http://www.andrews.af.mil/library/factsheets/factsheet.asp?id=4748
It appears that the VC-9Cs are now operated by the USAF Reserve, but they are still used for the “VIP” mission.
interestingly I did find the base of a 1940’s RAF char mug, how I found a ceramic mug base with a metal detector I have no idea but it is obviously testament to my skill.
Cheers
Matt
Many ceramic glazes used to contain lead… perhaps there was just enough to disturb the magnetic fields a tad.
Kinda feel sorry for Italy and Spain. Their carriers can’t really be modified to operate F-35C. Not big enough.
Spain hasn’t ordered a new ship yet.
No, they haven’t ordered a replacement for Principe de Asturias yet… But Juan Carlos I, which has recently entered service, IS designed for the F-35B!
Elevator size/weight capability, flight deck strength, and the strength/take-off weight-stress rating of the ski-jump were specifically spec’ed for the F-35B*, not the AV-8B+!
* In addition to the helicopters Spain uses/plans to use aboard.
Yes… a 1/3-scale technology demonstrator… NOT anything resembling a fighter… or even a prototype for a fighter!
And the pic clearly shows the civilian markings, which is what makes it a Lodestar… and one not in service with the USAAF, USN, USMC, or RCAF.
I was just noting how, just as the Model 14 was developed into the Hudson, so was the Model 18 developed into a patrol bomber.
Nice to see the Hamilton-class Coast Guard cutters are finding good homes.
At the risk of being pedantic, photo 4 is not a Lockheed Hudson…it’s a Lockheed 18 Lodestar..probably within the NC33663 to NC33668 range.
Hudson refers to the RAF/Commonwealth armed aircraft based on the Lockheed 14 Super Electra.
The Lodestar was developed into the Ventura (originally for Britain), which was used as a bomber and patrol aircraft from mid-1942 on (USN PV-1 & USAAF B-34), then developed into the PV-2 Harpoon.
Both types operated extensively in the Alaskan theatre.
Those wishing more info on the Alaskan theatre of operations should get The Thousand Mile War by Brian Garfield.
It covers the area from the assignment of Colonel (soon General) Simon Bolivar Buckner Jr in mid-1940 as commander of the newly created 11th Air Force (its first plane was an old Martin B-10 light bomber which arrived 12 August 1940) to the end of the war.
Does the article mention Diana at all ????
While you are likely taking a dig at the press, I’ll bite.
NO, no mention at all… mainly because she was likely just being conceived at this time.
Lady Diana Spencer was born 1 July 1961, and was virtually invisible to the press or public until Prince Charles began dating her in 1980.