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January 12, 2010 at 2:55 am in reply to: The "But that aircraft never flew with that airforce"-picture thread #2421090

Don Chan
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Found this in Air Pictorial

IIRC, the French had a Mirage III/V (V for VTOL) prototype.
This was back in the days of the Brits’ P.1127 VTOL and P.1154 ASTOVL, and the Soviets’ Yak-36 and Yak-38.

January 11, 2010 at 3:45 pm in reply to: ROCAF F-5A/B #2421367

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] some others supplied by Stefan Goossens

FYI, yes, I used my JMT (Jedi Mind Trick) on him, and a few Taiwanese bloggers.

You seem to have missed the F-5B 1106 (21275, 67-21275, but mispainted as “1101”) in my previous post?

January 10, 2010 at 11:37 am in reply to: ROCAF F-5A/B #2422004

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http://www.rocahc.org/photo/%E5%B1%95%E7%A4%BA%E6%A9%9F/%E5%8F%B0%E4%B8%AD%E7%B8%A3/1272.jpg
in
http://www.rocahc.org/park/%E5%8F%B0%E4%B8%AD%E7%B8%A3.htm
is F-5A 1272 (97102, 69-7102).

http://www.rocahc.org/photo/%E5%B1%95%E7%A4%BA%E6%A9%9F/%E9%AB%98%E9%9B%84%E7%B8%A3/1276.jpg
in
http://www.rocahc.org/park/%E9%AB%98%E9%9B%84%E7%B8%A3.htm
is F-5A 1276 (97111, 69-7111).

http://www.rocahc.org/photo/%E5%B1%95%E7%A4%BA%E6%A9%9F/%E5%8F%B0%E4%B8%AD%E7%B8%A3/1280.jpg
in
http://www.rocahc.org/park/%E5%8F%B0%E4%B8%AD%E7%B8%A3.htm
is F-5A 1280 (69-7115). It’s painted in SEA camo, and the photo’s too blurry to read its tail code.
IMO, looks like it’s scanned from a colour photo.

http://www.rocahc.org/photo/%E5%B1%95%E7%A4%BA%E6%A9%9F/%E8%8A%B1%E8%93%AE%E7%B8%A3/1106.jpg
in
http://www.rocahc.org/park/%E8%8A%B1%E8%93%AE%E7%B8%A3.htm
is a photo of F-5B “1101” and “21275”. Its caption says its real S/N is 1106 (67-21275).

http://skywarrior.cool.ne.jp/rocaf-f-5b-1117.jpg
in
http://skywarrior.cool.ne.jp/rocaf%20f-5b.htm
is F-5B 1117 (40780).

(FYI, my favourite modern warplane #1 is the A-10C, but it doesn’t have many exciting news to follow, so I don’t mind gawking at other modern warplanes.)

January 9, 2010 at 4:02 pm in reply to: ROCAF F-5A/B #2422382

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Unsolved mysteries

] Note that the F-5As do not run in strict FMS order

For comparison and interaction (that is, for fun), I’m looking for the ROCAF serial numbers of these ROCAF accident F-5A/B; but I don’t require their photo ID:

25 February 1985:
F-5A.

28 May 1983:
F-5A.

30 April 1980:
F-5A.

Before / in 1979:
F-5A-30. 66-09182. C/N N.6286.

Before / in 1973:
F-5A-45. 69-07104. C/N N.6470.

Before / in 1973:
F-5A-30. 66-14458. C/N N.6312.

Before / in 1973:
F-5A-30. 66-09177. C/N N.6281.

January 9, 2010 at 3:55 pm in reply to: F4 Phantom II Action Photos….(wanted) #2422384

Don Chan
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Unsolved mysteries

In the official Taiwanese MND archive, albeit only in Chinese text, in
http://archive.mnd.gov.tw/index/idx_items.asp?idx=00043942
003 is a “request for assistance to collect US military F-4 accident data”.
004 is a “reply to collect 12 January 1972 F-4 accident data process situation”.

Both summaries don’t specify where the F-4 accident happened. AFAIK, US military F-4s were in Taiwan between at least ’72 and ’75.

Did any US military F-4 crash on or about this date, in or about Taiwan?
Even if this F-4 accident happened in Taiwan, maybe it wasn’t DBR?

January 9, 2010 at 3:41 pm in reply to: The "But that aircraft never flew with that airforce"-picture thread #2422388

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In
http://tw.myblog.yahoo.com/caf-flyboy/article?mid=1556&prev=1580&next=1532&l=f&fid=5
http://tw.myblog.yahoo.com/caf-flyboy/article?mid=1758&prev=1783&next=1752&page=1&sc=1#yartcmt
at the Tang Shan museum,
http://f23.yahoofs.com/myper/C5OWHc6VGx0wXcRKNzw-/blog/ap_F23_20090922022758176.jpg?TTAiRSLBjz8NncS0
says: in the ’70s, the Chicom acquired from Egypt, two MiG-23BN, two MiG-23MC, two MiG-23U, and 10 AS-5 AGMs.
The Chicom then “harmonised” their RP-22 radar as Type 204, and P-29-300 engine as WP-15.

http://tw.myblog.yahoo.com/caf-flyboy/article?mid=1610&prev=1626&next=1603&l=f&fid=5

A movie or TV series borrows a China Southern Airlines Y-7, and disguises it as a ROCAF plane. 8D

January 9, 2010 at 2:41 pm in reply to: ROCAF F-5A/B #2422408

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That’s F-5A x 16 and F-5B x 5 spotted. How many more to go? 8D

] I have already seen the preserved examples thanks.

http://www.rocahc.org/park/%E5%85%AC%E5%9C%92%E9%81%B8%E5%96%AE.htm
is the “aviation parks” page in the ROC aviation history Website. Have you tried the photos of the preserved F-5A/B here?

Other non-Chinese Netters previously complained the links failed because the URLs contain Chinese fonts. Do they fail on you too?

BTW, my personal file records only those F-5A/B that crashed. 8(
And why would you care about Taiwanese F-5A/B?

January 9, 2010 at 1:42 pm in reply to: Is the history of Taiwan coming to an end ? #2422412

Don Chan
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http://blog.sina.com.cn/s/blog_5e5b58910100gk5d.html
http://blog.sina.com.cn/s/blog_5d9687e80100h909.html

List of post-1979 US foreign military sales to Taiwan, and their prices.

January 8, 2010 at 6:11 pm in reply to: Defections Of Pilots W/ Aircraft #2422598

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F-5A: gift from Commie Viet Nam.
F-5E: gift from Taiwan.
F-104: gift from Italy.

January 8, 2010 at 6:08 pm in reply to: Japan rolls out the CX and the PX #2422607

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http://www.gifu-np.co.jp/news/kennai/20100108/201001080854_9701.shtml
http://www.tokyo-np.co.jp/s/article/2010010890091001.html

7 January 2010:
C-X.
Gifu AB, Gifu Prefecture.

Scheduled first flight as early as 2010 late January.

(IMO: the audience is snoring.)

http://www.sanriku-kahoku.com/news/2010_01/i/100107i-buru.html

6 January 2010:
Blue Impulse, F-2, and SAR helicopters.
Matsushima AB, Miyagi Prefecture.

First flights of year.
This year is 50th anniversary of Blue Impulse, since 1960 April.

January 8, 2010 at 4:35 pm in reply to: ROCAF F-5A/B #2422667

Don Chan
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I presume you’ve tried all the “China / Taiwan” pages here?

http://home.eblcom.ch/f5enthusiast/

After all, your two lists seem to have missed at least F-5A 1238 (69204)?

http://home.eblcom.ch/f5enthusiast/Pictures/China/F-5A1238.jpg

BTW, please re-post your lists after you’ve expanded them with this and other sources. 8D

] Most sources I have seen quote 24Feb66 as being the date of the loss of 1201.

I’ve seen only one unofficial source WRT the date of the loss of 1201.

January 8, 2010 at 5:27 am in reply to: Defections Of Pilots W/ Aircraft #2422857

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http://catalog.digitalarchives.tw/dacs5/System/Exhibition/Detail.jsp?OID=3251495

14 August 1962:
ROC Air Force Victory Day.
MiG-15 1765 as ground display at Taipei Municipal Stadium, Taipei City.
On 13 August 1962, in the morning, ROCAF pilot flew it over the city, and landed at Song Shan AB.

] 12 January 1960:
] MiG-15. 0651 (not 6501).

http://catalog.digitalarchives.tw/dacs5/System/Exhibition/Detail.jsp?OID=3251074
has a news vid.

January 8, 2010 at 5:26 am in reply to: F-104 Question #2422859

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http://tw.myblog.yahoo.com/caf-flyboy/article?mid=750&prev=762&next=744&l=f&fid=5
http://tw.myblog.yahoo.com/caf-flyboy/article?mid=762&prev=769&next=750&l=f&fid=5

26 February 1964:
The historic second F-104 turnover ceremony.
4141, 4142, &c.

http://catalog.digitalarchives.tw/dacs5/System/Exhibition/Detail.jsp?OID=3251098

26 May 1960:
The historic first F-104 turnover ceremony.
4101, &c.

http://tw.myblog.yahoo.com/caf-flyboy/article?mid=407&prev=415&next=403&page=1&sc=1#yartcmt

17 September 1958:
Tao Yuan AB open house.
F-104A of 83rd FIS, USAF.
FG-791, FG-828, &c.

January 8, 2010 at 5:23 am in reply to: ROCAF F-5A/B #2422860

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http://tw.myblog.yahoo.com/caf-flyboy/article?mid=733&prev=-2&next=-2&page=1&sc=1#yartcmt
has at least 1201 and 1212.

This is the historic “F-5 Freedom Fighter Turnover Ceremony” on 1965.12.09.
AFAIK, 1201 crashed on 1966.02.23.

News vid:
http://catalog.digitalarchives.tw/dacs5/System/Exhibition/Detail.jsp?OID=3252030

(IMO, the MIBs’ suits look so d_mn stylish.)

http://tw.myblog.yahoo.com/caf-flyboy/article?mid=744&prev=750&next=741&l=f&fid=5
has 1202.

http://tw.myblog.yahoo.com/caf-flyboy/article?mid=741&prev=744&next=733&l=f&fid=5
has 1235.

January 8, 2010 at 5:22 am in reply to: Defections Of Pilots W/ Aircraft #2422861

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http://tw.myblog.yahoo.com/caf-flyboy/article?mid=383&prev=391&next=379&page=1&sc=1#yartcmt

ROCAF planes that defected to the Chicom:

T-33A 3024 was 26 January 1969.

AT-6 200 was 26 October 1954.

(BTW, the babe before the 3024 looks kind of cute?)
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