Oh John, spoilsport? This is what forums are all about – free speech from aviation enthusiasts expressing positive and negative aspects about our hobby! 🙁
Right, thought I would wait to see how many pleas I got – great! Here we are then – Albert’s day with the FRU! This was on 5th June 1968 and I was 18 at the time (yes, work it out!). I still can’t believe how I managed to talk my way into flying in one of their Meteor TT.20s and getting them to put up the Sea Hawk and two Scimitars for my cameras – but the pilots were civilians and those were the wonderful ’60s!
Ah, XE368 – she must have been one of the last Sea Hawks flying with the Fleet Requirements Unit at Hurn. I was lucky enough to do an air-to-air photo sortie with XE339, which was one of the last two airworthy, about 6 months before they were retired. I’ll post the shots if anyone’s interested?
This is indeed very sad for such a rare aircraft! As you say, there is nothing we can do about it, as it’s his aircraft…as often we say! If this owner has no interest in arcraft, then the only possible thing perhaps someone like a museum with ‘surplus’ planes for trade, would be to offer an exchange for perhaps a Hunter? This would be about the same size and he could advertise his Yard on that? You might politely suggest that to the owner as I’m sure there must be someone with a ‘spare’ Hunter that they would trade for a Swift?
Meanwhile…from out of ‘Albert’s Archives’, this is how she looked nearly 40 years ago at Hatfield in July 1967. I think it was used by de Havilland’s apprentices as a training airframe then
I don’t know if anyone here saw the B52 display at Mildenhall in the late 80s or early 90s (I will have to dig out the year) but it was described in “Aviation News” as truly staggering and it was. It was probably the most impressive display I have seen by a large jet and you would not have believed an aircraft that large could move like it did that day. It had taken off westwards with an immediate left turn and was over the hangers on the south side before the end of the runway. It was also the first display of a B52 which held the nose down after leaving the ground to gather speed and was copied by B52 display pilots for a few years after that at various displays. I think the pilot was Randy Ashworth?? who posed for photos afterwards – very impressive although I am a big Vulcan fan.
Would this be the same pilot…???
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Denis,
It must be a twin, so if you’re going by your list, then the only thing that fits is a Mosquito?
Albert, I have taken this into consideration when I say it, thats why I said I don’t think she’ll be seen at many small airshows. Most just wont be able to support her (in my opinion) by having a large enough venue ( which relates to people through door, which relates to cash, which relates to costs ).
So just to clarify what I think.
a). I think the first airshow has already been contracted and that will be RIAT.
b). I think she will be a big crowd puller with Joe Public but I doubt many airshows will have the facilities to cope with her.
Now you’re starting to look at this realistically. What it all boils down to is that no-one apart from RIAT will be able to afford it, so that’ll £2.5m lottery grant spent for two flights – 1. Bruntingthorpe-Fairford and 2. Bruntingthorpe-Duxford and grounding? :confused:
Fair points Melvyn but I think we’ll have to disagree on the crowd pulling potential of the Vulcan. When I talk to people who are over 30 and I mention I like aviation nearly everyone starts to talk airshows and next to everyone has a Vulcan story – ask them if they would like to see one again and they say they would jump at the chance. Now I’m not stupid enough to think they will all come but if you take this over the population as a whole I think there will be a massive interest, the increase in numbers will not come from enthusiasts but from joe public in my opinion. I don’t think you’ll be seeing her at small airshows.
£10,000 – yes I am being optimistic, hoping that they can get at least some sponsorship! 🙂
Sorry DGH, but I agree with Melv whose arguments make a lot of sense and whose vision is not clouded by ‘rose coloured spectacles’ as many are. What you also haven’t considered is that you can’t run an air show just with the Vulcan alone and the horrendous insurance and operating costs are made up from all the other participants , which have to be balanced against the gate takings. The Vulcan could well be just too costly to ‘add to the list’, let alone expecting queues just to see it alone. 🙁
r, what the hell was that fish that they found on the keel ????
…..A Swordfish? :rolleyes: 😀
I will ask those who know, The £1500 fee for 558 during the RAF was to cover aircrew and team costs. I think the same will apply if all the sponsors they hope for come forward when it’s back in service.
If I had a privately-owned Vulcan, I would love to be able to cover my costs charging £1500 per show! We can’t wait to hear what the answer is! :rolleyes:
A formation of Fouga Magisters taxying on the ground – the ear-piercing shrill of the Belgian Red Devils and Patrouille de France when they operated the type.
Superb documentary with lots of archive footage. Shame nothing worth recovering from the aircraft.
but the aft toilet compartments remain intact & very interesting.
Simon.
?? Whilst all old plane stuff is interesting, what is so very interesting about a toilet?? I am intrigued! (I admit there is an interesting DH125 toilet story in Ken Gregory’s autobiography)[/QUOTE]
I’m sure it’s ‘bog standard’, unless our friend is a little potty on airliner toilets? 😉
James,
What’s a book? 8^O
I’m a child of the internet!
I saw the MiG 17 and 21, the Su-7 and the PZL 104, but I can’t say I saw the Cricket or Goumhouria there.
Thanks for the info, much appreciated!
Richard.
The Cricket and Gomhouria are inside the museum, so you would probably have to queue to go in to see them. The rest are all outside, including a Wilga light plane, which you didn’t mention. If you are missing any photos, I can help out.
At whichever display, whose organiser can afford the insurance!!! 😮