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  • in reply to: Can you i.d.an aircraft type from part numbers? #1378797
    N.Wotherspoon
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    EEP

    Yep EEP is English Electric Preston

    in reply to: e bay P-40 engine piece #1385978
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    Scrap!

    IMO I Think he is stretching the description a tad calling them “substantial relics” + without the id of the aircraft they are merely scrap anyway – but then one or two “enthusiasts” seem to be raking in a fortune for such scrap on ebay

    Now the approx one ton of Spitfire V (BL585) I unearthed at the weekend IS substantial 😀 and no NONE of it will be for sale 😮

    in reply to: Wellington HE226 on Conistone Moor #1414295
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    Crew of HE 226 Remembered

    If lost air crew are on board then there is no chance of you getting a licence. But if all the crew have known graves … then you might still get a licence.

    Even through all or different views on this subject one thing is quite clear.

    GONE BUT NOT FORGOTTEN

    Hi everyone – just retnd from 3 weeks in france 🙂 & catching up – the website that the original info was taken from was mine & I am the author of the page mentioned – in this area there are still many such “High Ground Wreck” sites with varying amounts of wreckage left. HE226 has to my knowledge been subject to two licenced excavations by different groups and many parts have been recovered and preserved. I have visited the site and attended one of the excavations, but have no artefacts from it. It is an unusual site in that the the level of destruction during the crash of the aircraft components is quite shocking – the ground here has virtually no top soil & is a solid limestone pavement a few centimeters down. So although there does appear to be a substantial amount of wreckage, what is left is very badly shattered.

    A memorial at each site would be nice and I totally agree with the final sentiment above – however this would be very costly / time consuming for an individual or small group, so I feel that the remaining wreckage may be seen as a memorial + the virtual memorials in the form of the web pages I create – which has obviously worked in this case, bringing this site and the fate of these airmen to peoples attention.

    Sadly I feel I cannot publish exact locations on my site and only give out such information by request (though I obviously included enough to allow this one to be located with a little detective map work) as not everyone is as responcible or respectful as the original poster of this thread. I have seen parts taken illegally fron wrecksites featured on my website appear on ebay & have been involved with attempts to persuade ebay to stop listing these items – however many parts offered for sale are actually from legally excavated sites and offered by well known aviation enthusiasts – I personally feel this is morally wrong, but other people obviously have other opinions / priorities 🙁

    in reply to: Crash axe #1386029
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    CRASH AXE

    Yep that’s a fireman’s axe – I have one from a Defiant dig – identical to the Battle one above, though no corrosion & rubber handle intact with the volts casting & AM with a crown marking & date 1940 – will try to get some pics – it is a little miss-shaped though! 😮

    I have been told the glider ones only had the “P” shape with no spike as they were much more likely to have be used 😮 and swinging a spiked version around in a crowded glider fuselage was going to hurt someone!

    in reply to: Bristol Perseus survivors? #1388107
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    Perseus Lost by RAF Museum

    In 1974 Bolton Sub Aqua Club successfully recovered the Perseus engine from Blackburn Skua II L2892 of 776 Squadron from a flooded disused quarry near Bolton and following cleaning and conservation at the Bolton Institute of Technology it was passed on to the RAF Museum & placed in store at Cardington. Sadly its subsequent fate is not clear and enquiries to date have not managed to track it down.

    Brief details of the crash and photos of the site today are on my website at:

    http://web.ukonline.co.uk/lait/site/Skua L2892.htm

    in reply to: RAF BASES IN EGYPT WW2 #1405534
    N.Wotherspoon
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    Thanks!

    Thanks for the quick replies – have posted on the other forum as suggested – Afraid I have no more infor at this stage – I was hoping to try to get some further details when I ring him with any news – He seemed most keen to know where this “base” was & did mumble something about the relative being involved in clandestine flights!

    in reply to: The Hurricane That Saved London ! #1396745
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    A-26 Invaders on Time Team

    Spoke to the Time Team production Company last week & they confirmed that this years series including “our” Warton dig on the Invaders will be shown on Sky next year. So it should be aired several times at least for those who missed it.

    Also Ken Ellis has confirmed that our article on the dig will be in Flypast as soon as space is available – there are some good shots that you missed on the programme including the complete upper turret being lifted intact – (before EOD blew it up :confused: ) Still we are busy cleaning and reassembling the pieces at the RAF Millom museum & the turret is starting to look pretty good 🙂

    in reply to: RAF Museum Reserve Collection #1354021
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    Cointact Details

    Hi Vicki

    Could you PM me contact details as I am still on the trail of that elusive Blackburn Skua engine that the RAF museum seems to have “lost”!!!

    All the best – Nick

    in reply to: RAF Museum Cosford Hidden Treasures #1369634
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    Lost Treasure

    Do you think there is any chance of the following “Lost” item being in there anywhere?

    In 1974 Bolton Sub Aqua Club successfully recovered the engine from Blackburn Skua II L2892 of 776 Squadron from a flooded disused quarry near Bolton and following cleaning and conservation at the Bolton Institute of Technology it was passed on to the RAF Museum & placed in store at Cardington. Sadly its subsequent fate is not clear and enquiries to date have not managed to track it down.

    Brief details of the crash and photos of the site today are on my website at:

    http://web.ukonline.co.uk/lait/site/Skua L2892.htm

    in reply to: Blackburn Skua – Found and now Lost? #1353878
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    Skua passenger

    Thanks for all your searching – You obviously enjoy a challenge! – It is much appreciated – Certainly looks more than likely this is our man IMO & has you say probably only hitching a lift / ride – quite how they came to be over Bolton when it was supposed to be a ferry flight from Woodvale to Speke has also msytified me.

    I will check with our group member who has been researching all the Speke incidents & see if he can throw more light on “HMS Speke”.

    in reply to: Blackburn Skua – Found and now Lost? #1355717
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    75 MU

    FAA Aircraft 1939-45 has S/L AJ Newton killed, but you have him as the pilot; no other crew mentioned.

    Flood

    Recovery carried out by 75 M.U. from Wilmslow – and a detailed account was recorded – Two crew definitely in the aircraft and the recovery of the bodies is also described – the gunner first as the fuselage was hauled out of the water tail first and then the pilot was found when serching the wreckage once it had been secured. The report also mentions the engine being abandoned as it was too deeply embedded in the mud and divers were unable to attach hawser.

    As Newton is the only named crew member, I assumed him to be the pilot – he is commemorated at Liverpool (Anfield) Crematorium – Panel 2.

    in reply to: Channel 4 Time Team Invader Dig #1387641
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    Does that mean you now have a scrap value Nick ?

    Yep – so when I get tatty and decrepit like a certain Vulcan, I’ll have to watch out 😀

    I am wondering how it will affect my Forster though – as it is I have to take off my watch to tune it in!!! 😉

    in reply to: Channel 4 Time Team Invader Dig #1387666
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    Thanks Elliott – back at work now – two weeks earlier than anticipated! Managed my first wreck foray last week – Oxford BM837 of 410 Sqn – flown by Flt Lt Cybulski who was injured in the crash – he was the chap flying the famous Mossie that was photographed badly scorched after a Do217 he was attacking blew up as he closed in.

    Feeling much better than before as kept getting out of breath & over tired – defect was from birth apparently but only showed up after I collapsed taking the TT people out on the marsh in Feb last year – I now have £3500 worth of Titanium alloy patching me up – should be fun at airports 😉

    in reply to: Channel 4 Time Team Invader Dig #1389733
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    What we do is: keep the interesting bits for display and/or reference available to restoration/reconstruction projects and scrap the rest to avoid it from falling into the “wrong” hands. The sold scrap also covers some of the costs of the recovery (hiring the digger etc.). Nothing else is sold. Cees

    I think this about covers the way most responcible groups deal with wreckage recovered – As many of our digs are on grazing land we usually have to take every scrap away to prevent animals trying to eat any fragments remaining – it amazes me what cows will try to eat 😮 This leaves us often with two or three tons of material to sort through, which takes time! But often some of the most interesting finds can be made sifting through this material – more than one engine limitations plate has turned up during this process.

    All material is washed down and every piece inspected & either put aside for further cleaning or onto the “clean” scrap pile or the mixed scrap pile. one or two pieces are also put aside for presentation mounting for the farmer or anyone else who has particularly helped with a project – We do not agree with selling any items other than for recycling – the money then being used to offset costs.

    We have all seen the items offered on ebay & this gives an unfair view of our hobby to those outside it – I regularly note the items for sale & it is only a handful of sellers responcible – one individual seems to have an inexhaustable supply of small bits of labelled crud from famous sites, which often go for fantastic sums – he also seems to have a knack of advertising bits connected with TV documentaries just after they have been shown – including battle of France items and items from the TT Spitfire dig 😡 Another often sells dubiously deactivated ammo from a well known B17 site in Scotland – since when did diesel deactivate detonators in .50 rounds 😮

    But the worst IMO is when personal property items from dig comes up for sale – my opinion of those who sell such items is not repeatable here! However eBay are not interested – believe me I let them know when it happens – but I suppose they are getting their cut 😡 !

    in reply to: Channel 4 Time Team Invader Dig #1409366
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    Warton Junk Yard

    As to other remains, there was a pile of damaged aircraft near the western end of the main runway, whilst the base was still occupied by the USAAF. Could it be that they were all bulldozed off the base?

    Hi – I have spoken to several locals over the years & it seem that many of those who were boys at the time gained access to this area – Many Hadrian gliders were dumped here at the end of the war & local boys used the wings to make rafts on the river. I have also spoken to a metal detectorist who tried his luck on the area, but the ground is seeded with hundreds of 9mm sidearm rounds so he gave up.

    Also I have heard of material dumped on the marsh – though of course it was not the marsh we know today – one local came forward on the TT dig & offered to show us where boxes of tools were dumped! Finally the heavily corroded A-26 leg recovered during the TT dig is almost certainly not off either of the aircraft excavated – there were several A-26 U/C collapse incidents on the base – but why go to the trouble of dragging it out on the marsh? I can only assume a local wanted it to tie a boat to?

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