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  • in reply to: MMRCA news thread 10 #2303668
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    Economic woes cast doubts over India’s MMRCA buy

    India’s economic downturn, rising inflation and the rapid depreciation of the rupee could “impinge adversely” on the procurement of 126 Medium Multi Role Combat …

    http://jdw.janes.com/public/jdw/index.shtml

    in reply to: Rafale Thread X #2303761
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    Gen Jean-Paul Paloméros, chief of staff of the French air force, is confident about the Dassault Rafale’s prospects in major international competitions, and partially attributes the aircraft’s previous losses in Singapore and South Korea to politics.

    “I’ve flown in the Rafale and I know what it can do,” said Paloméros, speaking to Flightglobal at the Langkawi International Maritime and Aerospace exhibition in Malaysia late last month. “Rafale was designed since conception as a multi-role aircraft,” he added.

    According to Paloméros, the Rafale is well suited to handle emerging air-to-air and air-to-ground threats in the Asia-Pacific region.

    “The Rafale has very high manoueverability,” he said. “It will be getting an AESA [active electronically scanned array] radar and it has good weapons. It will also receive the MBDA Meteor air-to-air missile, offering extra range against any types of threats.”

    The AESA version of the Thales RBE2 radar will be introduced into Rafale in 2013, when French forces begin receiving the fourth block of production aircraft. The Meteor is still undergoing development, but should be deployed on the Rafale after the middle of the decade.

    Paloméros is confident the Rafale will emerge triumphant in India’s medium multi-role combat aircraft competition for 126 fighters, where it is on a shortlist with the Eurofighter Typhoon. Indian media reports suggest the decision is imminent, possibly before the end of 2011.

    Full story:

    http://www.flightglobal.com/news/articles/french-air-force-chief-confident-of-rafale-victory-in-indian-contest-366102/

    I thought AESA would come next year, but it seems I was wrong?

    in reply to: Eurofighter Typhoon News & Discussions Thread V #2304367
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    I’m sorry to disagree with JW and PG, but it was always likely that Oman would augment its small Typhoon purchase (only 12-16 aircraft), as it was always part of an expansion programme and not simply one of re-equipment, and the F-16 was always the most likely beneficiary.

    Has Oman already ordered Typhoon?

    in reply to: Gripen for Switzerland #2307157
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    If BS were an item, you would be a factory.

    LOL, you have run out of arguments it seems!

    Had you been more open-minded and willing to learn and understand perhaps I could have tried to explain to you, but given the attitude you are showing I put you on my Ignore list instead.

    Bye.

    in reply to: Rafale news part XI #2307192
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    I love when some are alwyays trying to turn it in a negative way…They are the first to call into question the 286 rafale objective given by official but once an official gives the smallest bit of information that could be interpreted negatively it is taken as god truth…Talk about double standard !

    The MLU is schedulded somewhere between 2020-2025 so in 2030 the rafale will still be pretty capable around that date…And that doesn’t mean that nothing will move afterward if their is a new requirement from a user (french or export).

    The rafale programm is quite credible when it comes to add new capabilities and to commit to objectives.

    Which 4th gen airctaft will still be manufactured after 2020 ? The rafale is probably the safest bet (bare the outcome of the indian competition for the typhoon).

    Relax, I was just asking 😉

    Most likely it was another misunderstanding. If the last Rafale is produced in 2022 and has a service life of 30 years then it will operate until 2052. If so then I am sure they will upgrade it after 2030.

    AFAIK fighter jets tend to get upgrades every 1-3 years, in addition to the MLU.

    in reply to: MMRCA news thread 10 #2307204
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    If that had to happen, then it would have happened by now. The IAF needs these planes, and the Govt and bureaucracy has dithered enough. Of the five contenders only the EF and Rafale meet the required specifications. The rest, really did not. They revised the benchmark also to reflect the costs.

    Look, India is willing to spend on its modernization, which BTW is overdue by almost a decade.

    Take a random look at Indian programs and you’ll see…C130J’s, 9 more to be ordered, C-17 orders 10 placed, 7 more likely, Navy intends to double P-8I orders to 20+…over a hundred radars ordered for the IAF from local, French, Israeli sources…ballistic missile program being advanced…multi-billion SAM order for IAF placed with locals (Akash), another more expensive long range one codeveloped with IAF…

    Point is in each of these, IAF/services went for capability. Not just cost, that was considered after certain standards were met.

    In the ONE deal, that got cancelled due to price escalation, that was apparently because the IAF did not write the specifications stringently enough (for flight refuellers) so the Fin Min, pointed out that the cheaper IL-78 met those standards too….guess what, the IAF did not order the IL-78, but has thrown open the revised deal again, where the A330 and Boeing refuellers can both compete.

    Point being, the MMRCA is as good as done now. It will not be cancelled or revised, and that’s my honest opinion.

    India is facing severe security challenges and the IAF needs these planes.

    Still, the finance people may wonder when they read stuff like this:

    “In all fairness, all the six aircraft in the competition were good, and more or less close to one another in performance. But some of them had to be out, and some had to be in, and that’s it. Let’s say that the two European finalists were the most-compliant in the 600-plus parameters that the IAF selection team had set.”

    http://www.indiastrategic.in/topstories1068.htm

    So all of them were good and “more or less close in performance”. OK they picked the two most-compliant, but was it because they met some key criteria that the others did not meet or was it because “some of them had to be out and some had to be in”?

    Hopefully there were good reasons why the 4 others were excluded but reading the above text one does not get that impression, it seems more like an arbitrary (and very expensive!) decision. Perhaps the person giving the statement (Chief of Air Staff of the Indian Air Force) does not know what he is talking about?

    in reply to: Rafale news part XI #2307210
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    He said the program would continue until “beyond 2020” and that given the “modernization and progressive updates of the platform, Dassault’s activities linked to the French Rafale program will last until 2030.”

    So no updates after 2030!?

    in reply to: Sweden's SEAD capability against S-300/400? #2307586
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    American carrier groups and naval forces in general never snoop around and in other nations waters. Yeeeep.
    Let’s not make this bigger than it is.

    When did they had to shut down civilian traffic because of it?

    Sources please

    in reply to: Gripen for Switzerland #2307658
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    1) You are feigning ignorance, once again (mp.net and here), Olybrius already corrected you there yesterday.

    2) Pitching an upgraded C/D in Switzerland while pitching an NG in Brazil ? It makes no sense.

    I did not say that NG was not offered in 2009; I said that we don’t know. I said that perhaps it was not. There are reasons why it may not have been offered to Switzerland back in 2009, but I will not bother trying to explain that to you since you will just ignore what I’m trying to explain to you.

    Anyway as stated previously; Bill Sweetman says he believes the NG was not offered back in 2009. He may be wrong, but then again, he may be right. And that’s the whole point. We don’t know.

    We also don’t know how the 2009 config scored, in spite of your desperate attempts to show otherwise. Do you really think that an evaluation that lasts years and is documented in many hundred pages can be summarized in just 2 numbers?

    Unless this Australian guy took part in the Swiss procurement process he is completely irrelevant on the Swiss case, so you can already stop using him as a reference.

    Unless you took part in the Swiss procurement process you are completely irrelevant 😀

    You have absolutely nothing to contribute, so why are you so worked up?

    You are just a Rafale fanboy.

    This “Australian guy” knows what he is talking about; You clearly are absolutely clueless.

    in reply to: Sweden's SEAD capability against S-300/400? #2307922
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    The Kuznetsov group stayed in international waters for the entire exercise.

    As stated above it was not just inside of Norwegian EEZ, we also had to shut down helicopter trafic to and from the oil rigs due to the Russian activity. They were interfering with civilian activity in a manner that is not acceptable.

    I find it strange that you seem to defend such behavior. Why?

    in reply to: MMRCA news thread 10 #2307924
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    Given the high costs of both Rafale and Typhoon, what are the chances that the beancounters stops this deal?

    Isn’t 22 billion much more than the original budget?

    in reply to: MMRCA news thread 10 #2308022
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    Oh dear. Neither Dassault nor EADS has such technology. They are not engine manufacturers. The technology has to come from Safran or Rolls-Royce.

    True; however it’s not surprising that journalists and others don’t care about those little details.

    Anyway would the European engine manufacturers be willing to share that technology? Would Eurojet be obliged to do so if India becomes a full Eurofighter partner?

    in reply to: MMRCA for Malaysia #2308078
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    “Our approach is to provide a figure… this can go down later (depending on what the requirements are),” he said at the Langkawi International Maritime and Aerospace exhibition.

    Malin said other offers might appear cheaper but might not have the same complete package as that being offered by Eurofighter for the Typhoon. He added that the price per aircraft could also be lowered depending on the number of aircraft ordered.

    “You can say that this is the only ‘next generation’ fighter in the world right now,” he said.

    Recent news reports had placed the price of each aircraft at up to RM3 billion, prompting calls from various quarters to ditch the Typhoon from the shortlist of planes to eventually replace the Royal Malaysian Air Force’s fleet of Russian-made MiG-29N Fulcrum air superiority fighters.

    http://www.nst.com.my/top-news/typhoon-package-is-the-best-deal-1.16438#ixzz1fwUi73bd

    It’s always funny to listen to salesmen… 🙂

    I agree with TR1; this is most likely between SU-30 (or is it the SU-35!?) and SH.

    However I would also keep the Gripen NG as an outsider, depending on how the economy develops.

    in reply to: Gripen for Switzerland #2308378
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    CFT are entaierly composite.

    Ever heard of “Have Glass”?

    Do the F-16 have radar blockers in the air intakes?

    in reply to: Rafale news part XI #2308417
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    Rafale in Japan was like Gripen in Norway then :p

    Not really, Rafale in Japan was more like Typhoon in Norway.

    Rafale in South Korea was more like Gripen in Norway 😉

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