Hmm that link looks wrong to me, perhaps this is the one you meant to link to?
Except that a 3F F-35 wouldn’t be able to perform the given scenarios due to lack of weapons . Not true for 4F i think. There is another problem with timetable. Block III F-18 is maybe not advanced enough atm. Fianlly, the very structure of the RFpG is to seek for a deep collaboration with vendor state. i would be surprised to see USA propose two different aircrafts (different to Korea, here Both F-18 and F-35 would need to be proposed by USA agencies, not companies).
I think Belgium can probably accept that not all scenarios can be fully executed from day 1 of the introduction. The current version of the F-35 is already very capabable and it will be much better than today by the time of the introduction.
As for the latter point; I don’t think this is really an issue, I think the US could have offered two alternatives — if this had been an issue for sure Boeing (who is, just like LM, well connected in Washington) would have made a lot of noise.
Rather this just reflects that Boeing has looked at the RFP and concluded that this was written with the F-35 in mind…. I think the others will reach the same conclusion. Even I, with my limited (layman) knowledge concluded quite rapidly that this RFP was written with the F-35 in mind.
Somebody may object and say that this RFP was written solely to reflect the needs of the customer for the next 40 years or so. However think for a second about an “alternate reality” in which the US did not develop the F-35 but rather developed a “super F-16” for the USAF and kept on buying the SH for the navy; in such a situation me thinks this RFP would have looked quite different…. however the F-35 does exist, and therefore one can argue that it makes a lot of sense to take advantage of that fact…
ARLINGTON — The F-35 Lightning II strike fighter is easily able to counter the adversary services aircraft thrown at it in numbers, said an official of an adversary services contractor, who added that the industry is facing challenges in coming up with a realistic threat aircraft for training for high-end combat.
“Nothing gets close to these things [the F-35s]” said Jeffrey Parker, a former Air Force fighter pilot and chief executive of ATAC LLC, a Textron company that provides opposing aircraft for U.S. fighter squadrons and electronic threat simulation against Navy strike groups. “I’ve flown against the [Marine] F-35Bs down at [Marine Corps Air Station] Beaufort [S.C.] It’s an impressive airplane. Even in the hands of students, it’s a very capable fighter.”
For cost reasons, Parker said, single-engine jets are needed, rather than two-engine aircraft.
The ability of the F-22 Raptor and F-35 to track and engage large numbers of aircraft means that large numbers of adversary aircraft are needed to provide a realistic scenario for training the pilots. For example, the Air Force stations a number of T-38 supersonic trainers at Langley Air Force Base, Va., to provide enough bogeys to challenge the F-22s based there.“The Raptor is such an uneven fight, that if you send out two Raptors against anything else, there’s no challenge, no work for the pilots to do. For a ‘two-ship’ they want 12 bandits.
“What we see going on is a maturation of the industry” he said. “By going to the fourth-generation level, the Navy is acknowledging that these programs are going to be around and integrated at the highest levels, because now they have radar; pulling 9 gs [nine times the force of gravity] at the merge; [and] helmet off-boresight capability.”
http://seapowermagazine.org/stories/20170418-F35.html
Gripen E could perhaps be a good adversary for F-35/F-22 however probably too expensive… and also it will still take some time before it becomes available. Probably they will get some old F-16 and put AESA radars in them?
Also interesting for the few remaining sceptics that this is another confirmation that the F-35 is indeed starting to deliver.
“After studying the question, we regret that we see no possibility to compete with the extremely capable and cost-effective F / A-18 Super Hornet on a truly level playing field,” says Boeing.
The four remaining candidates to succeed the F-16s, the F-35 Lightning II Lockheed Martin, the Rafale F3R the French Dassault, the JAS 39E Gripen of the Swedish Saab and Eurofighter Typhoon Airbus.
Google translated from: http://www.demorgen.be/binnenland/boeing-niet-langer-kandidaat-om-opvolger-f-16-s-te-leveren-spelregels-zijn-bevooroordeeld-b8cca3fb/
In a way not very surprising, given the requirements.
It will be very interesting to see if any of the others also pull out.
Germany also plans to add air-to-ground*antisurface*ship attack and suppression of enemy air defenses (SEAD) capabilities to its*Eurofighter*Typhoons in the coming years.
Anybody who has further info on the German Typhoon SEAD plans?
Eurofighter Continues Hunt For Orders As Production Ebbs
Full story (behind paywall) http://aviationweek.com/awindefense/eurofighter-continues-hunt-orders-production-ebbs
Ueli Maurer made a comment two years ago, when asked what aircrafts could answer the Swiss Luftwaffe needs he said precisely this “le Gripen, peut etre le Rafale, peut etre un avion Americaine, le Eurofighter n´est plus le favori”.
This does not translate into “it seems Switzerland will invite Rafale and Gripen but not Typhoon for their next eval”.
“This does not translate into…”? you probably mean “this does translate into…”???
Interesting that they are dropping Typhoon — perhaps because of the high cost?
This is a 2013 article.
Oops sorry — for some mysterious reason it showed up when I searched for F-35 on google news?
The F-35 Joint Strike Fighter—a do-it-all strike jet being designed by Lockheed Martin to evade enemy radars, bomb ground targets and shoot down rival fighters—is as troubled as ever. Any recent tidbits of apparent good news can’t alter a fundamental flaw in the plane’s design with roots going back decades.
http://warisboring.com/f-d-how-the-u-s-and-its-allies-got-stuck-with-the-world-s-worst-new-warplane/
???
I thought the Rand study had been debunked ages ago? What’s happening here?
Excellent news; so Typhoon will finally grow up.
It is a bit curious though that it seems Switzerland will invite Rafale and Gripen but not Typhoon for their next eval… how come?
The US Navy’s ability to hit Syria’s Al-Shayrat Air Base with a large number of Raytheon RGM-109 Tomahawk Land Attack Missiles (TLAMs) on 7 April raised questions about the capabilities of Russia’s air defence systems, specifically its current frontline long-range system: the Almaz-Antey S-400 Triumf.
The 2008/2009 Swiss eval looked at a paper version of P1E, wich doesnt have a lot in common with what the Eurofighter consortium is testing and offering today. In other words, yes, the aircrafts that Kuwait will start receiving less than two years from now are a vastly diferent proposition than P1E, never mind the aircrafts that the Swiss actually tested.
It seems you are right, I stand corrected.
Does the Typhoon now use AESA radars for it’s EW stuff?
It is?
Do we have literature in the open public comparing the systems in those aircrafts wich is not a decade old?
The second part of the Swiss eval compared the systems in their 2015 config, which was 2 years ago. Unless there have been significant changes in the plans then it should still be relevant.
Don’t be so pessimistic. Many recent improvements and AESA could be a game changer.
AESA will definitely help — but will they fix the sensor fusion? And the EW suite? Currently Typhoon is far behind the Rafale, and Gripen NG in these important areas.
Eric Trump says ‘heartbroken and outraged’ Ivanka influenced U.S. airstrike on Syria
Here I was, believing that there was a grand new strategy at play…