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  • in reply to: 36 rafale for Brazil #2 #2403609
    Loke
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    btw, is the Gripen’s engine or any of its component, subject to the US approval on export (ITAR if I remember right) ?

    I would guess the F414 is subject to ITAR regulations, yes. However a lot of military hardware is… And as stated before, Brazil does already operate equipment that comes under ITAR regulations.

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/International_Traffic_in_Arms_Regulations

    in reply to: Saab JAS 39 Gripen Info # 2 #2403623
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    Czech pilot “Woody” writes about a normal day during Nato Tiger Meet.

    Such as how he successfully finds a target in a jammed environment and later when a Swiss F-18 is knocked down by one of his AMRAAM’s…

    Thanks to Signatory for finding this.

    http://translate.google.com/translate?js=y&prev=_t&hl=en&ie=UTF-8&layout=1&eotf=1&u=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.211squadron.cz%2Fletka%2Fntm09.html&sl=auto&tl=en

    in reply to: Rafale News IX #2403631
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    Tight budget, stringent dynamic performances (time to height) and small caverns?

    Cheers

    Tight budget: SH would compare well to both Typhoon and Rafale I think (and in particular to Rafale).

    Dynamic performance: Good point!

    Small caverns: Is this still relevant? And if it is, cannot the SH fold the wings or something?

    in reply to: 36 rafale for Brazil #2 #2403651
    Loke
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    At some point you have to pay the price for what you are actually asking. Even if this fighter sell is strategic, France will not accept to loose money on such a deal.

    And that could ultimately be why Rafale may lose in Brazil…

    All these delays may not mean anything — but I were French I would be a bit worried.

    in reply to: Rafale News IX #2403655
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    Or will the whole thing be abandoned in favour of a Super Hornet buy, as many seem to expect?

    SH left the Swiss competition before it even started. Boeing made the rather unusual step of recommending to the Swiss to go for Gripen… I may remember wrongly but I think Boeing said that SH was “too technically advanced” for the needs of Switzerland… would have been interesting to know what the Swiss actually said to Boeing that made them leave the competition…

    in reply to: Rafale News IX #2404171
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    Swiss evaluation committe prefers Rafale:

    http://info.rsr.ch/fr/rsr.html?siteSect=5001&broadcastId=715546&bcItemId=11603422

    Google translated:

    The Rafale has the wind in its sails

    Specialists in military aviation have their favorite to replace Tiger Swiss. The “Neue Luzerner Zeitung revealed yesterday that the evaluation committee had chosen the Rafale from the French aircraft manufacturer Dassault. This morning, the newspaper Lucerne returns on their information by referring to the surprise of parliament in central Switzerland to the swiftness of this choice.

    Comments from the Specialists on this forum 🙂

    in reply to: 36 Dassault Rafale for Brasil – Official #2404432
    Loke
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    If they get to sell their plane SH, with customer volunteering to be tied up then all’s fine with them.

    If you get to sell yours with us component, they would love to show who’s the boss. Sell they will but delay tactics? slow procurement rate? presidential review? others? ???

    I don’t think that would be good for sales… For sure the US will use any kind of argument to avoid buying a plane that is less than 100% US made; however once the decision has been made, the US will make the best out of it.

    I never heard about any delays in the delivery of Gripen to Czeckhia, Hungary, South Africa or Thailand because of this. And although the RM12 is only 50% American, I believe there are many other US components in the current Gripen. So plenty of reasons to play games if the US was so inclined…

    The US has tried to scare people from not buying US made planes, but it seems to me that’s just scare tactics…

    in reply to: 36 Dassault Rafale for Brasil – Official #2404457
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    With regards to Gripen NG it simply won’t happen even if it fits their needs like a glove. The engine won’t ever get transferred if Brazil is so anti-U.S. like Hammer suggests. Obama may be a democrat but he’s a team player. And with no EJ200 option on the table, Brazil is pretty much setting themselves up for failure with the delays.

    Are you saying that the US would block a sale of the F414 to Brazil?

    That would of course also block sales of the SH to Brazil (in which the F414 is probably one of the less sensitive technologies….) which simply does not make sense. Boeing would not spend all that money trying to sell SH to a country unless they believed there was a chance the sale would go through.

    Also I would assume that both Saab and Boeing would have received the needed approvals to sell their stuff to Brazil already?

    in reply to: A different kind of stealth fighter? #2406436
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    Great idea, but I would build it as an UCAV…

    stealth does not make you invisible or invincible… So if you want to cut things from a modern manned fighter that costs money but also increases survivability, I think it would make sense to also remove the pilot.

    Neuron?

    in reply to: F-22, Typhoon, Rafale, and F16's Block 60 #2406454
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    A French defense correspondent claims that Rafale and Typhoon met in UAE, and that the French pilots were “satisfied with the result”.

    Jackonicko, does this in any way conflict with what you have heard?

    🙂

    in reply to: 36 Dassault Rafale for Brasil – Official #2406657
    Loke
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    Take Brasil out of the equation and SAAB would be hard pressed to find someone that has issues with the US Congress/ITAR/FMS/etc, with enough money to buy a couple of Gripen sqns and that the Swedish goverment wouldnt veto because of political “problems”.
    Believe me, the EJ proposal was seriously considered by SAAB.

    Cheers

    I am not convinced that EJ engine would have made the difference in Brazil.

    Politically it seems they decide to go for France…

    AFAIK Brazil is actually using some US military equipment today, like e.g. the Orion maritime surveillance plane. If Brazil can accept that, why not a US engine (which I believe also Volvo has some IP in, although it’s probably minor compared to the total.)

    in reply to: 36 Dassault Rafale for Brasil – Official #2407661
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    http://translate.google.com/translate?js=y&prev=_t&hl=en&ie=UTF-8&layout=1&eotf=1&u=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.aviaport.ru%2Fdigest%2F2009%2F12%2F08%2F186669.html&sl=auto&tl=en

    Well I guess SH was in any case out of the question, for political reasons — which makes me wonder why it was included on the short-list at all?

    in reply to: 36 Dassault Rafale for Brasil – Official #2407670
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    Interesting ppp, but the Typhoon is not even in the competition in Brazil…

    Anyway I thought Rafale would get new sensors starting from 2012? If so it can’t be that bad?

    Perhaps the high price is more of an issue? Maybe the FAB realize that if they go for Rafale the high TCO will in the end mean fewer fighters and/or less equipment and/or less money to train. My understanding is that FAB is aiming for much more than 36 fighters in the end and that this is just the beginning?

    in reply to: 36 Dassault Rafale for Brasil – Official #2407730
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    http://www.swedishwire.com/component/content/article/1:business/1988:brazil-holds-up-decision-on-fighter-jet-deal

    SAO PAULO (AFP) – Swedish defense firm Saab, maker of the Gripen fighter jet, has to await President Luiz Inacio Lula da Silva’s 12-billion-dollar decision till after Christmas.

    Saab’s fight in Brazil ‘not yet over’

    Brazil’s ongoing negotiations to buy 36 jet fighters is part of a strategy to boost defensive capabilities against “potential threats,” President Luiz Inacio Lula da Silva said on Tuesday

    “One thing that we are most proud of is that Brazil is a peaceful country, without enemies. But every country has to prepare for potential threats,” he wrote in a weekly question-and-response column distributed to Brazilian newspapers.

    Lula stressed that the priority behind the fighter talks and a 12-billion-dollar contract signed last year with France to buy five submarines and 50 helicopters was to obtain the technology so Brazil could build the machines itself.

    “We are going to increase surveillance of our airspace with the use of satellites, planes and radars,” he said.

    He added that sea defenses were already operational but would also be reinforced “to discourage any attempted attack on Brazilian interests,” which include vast and newly discovered offshore oil fields.

    Lula and French President Nicolas Sarkozy announced jointly in September that Brazil was negotiating to buy 36 Rafale fighter aircraft from France’s Dassault company. The deal was estimated to be worth between four and seven billion dollars.

    But pressure from Brazil’s air force — which was still evaluating the Rafale against rival aircraft the F/A-18 Super Hornet by US group Boeing and the NG Gripen by Sweden’s Saab — forced Lula to delay a definitive announcement.

    The Brazilian air force evaluation was due to be handed to the government at the end of November.

    Senior defense officials are still to meet to agree on their choice, although Lula has made it clear he will have the final word.

    Jean-Marc Merialdo, the head of the Rafale bid in Brazil, told AFP on Tuesday that he had not yet received any details about when a decision would be made by Brazilian authorities.

    “The ball is in their court,” he said.

    Why all these delays now? The report should have been finalized some time ago, the three companies have delivered new and improved offers, so what is going on? Seems that the decision is far from clear-cut…?

    in reply to: F-22 Raptor & F-35 JSF? #2407749
    Loke
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    I am sure the F-35 can hold it’s own against most 20-40 year-old fighters out there :diablo:

    Which is the least you would expect from a 5. gen 300 billion USD program.

    The interesting thing will be: How does it perform when it meets SAM and his friends?

    And how will it compare to the Chinese 5. gen (which I think most people tend to underestimate — the Chinese are catching up rapidly in part due to some clever s.p.y.i.n.g. activities)

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