Anyone know what type of air to ground munitions or aircraft for that matter the French are using. Isn’t the Rafale typically an air superiority fighter?..
Did the AdA use the Rafale in the ground attack role?
I have not read anything which does mention that(only that “french planes attack..”) and all pictures in the media show Rafales armed with AA-Missiles and tanks.
Helicopters are more vulnerable as fighter jets, especially to this sort of air defence of light AA-Guns the Gaddafi-Forces(and the trigger-happy Rebels) mainly have.
I don`t think the Coalition is willing to take that risk.
Also they can operate only from Ships as there no boots on the ground allowed and Egypt and Tunisa are to far away (and it is not for sure that they would allow foreign forces on their soil)
I don’t know. I think that it would be possible to smuggle a special ops team on the island before the operation. You can have them put explosives on the runway and explode them in coordination with an air attack. If security is too tight, they could use mortars, attacking the same runway from a safe distance. They only need to delay scramble, till the actual air attack comes and finish the job. While they are on the island, they could even disable other key defensive components. The only thing you need is the element of surprise….
They probably would need pretty large explosives and also drill a hole to crack the concentrate. And they need to do this many times to make the runway non-operational.
So this special operation team have to be large and have a lot of time.
Such a operation would be neither fast nor very covert. This would give any british military on the base plenty of time to attack.
VIDEO: Eurojet proposes thrust-vectoring upgrade for Typhoon
Eurofighter and engine supplier Eurojet are stepping up their efforts to interest Typhoon customer nations in a thrust-vectoring upgrade that promises to bring substantial operational benefits and pay for itself through lifecycle cost reductions.
Equipping the twin-engined Typhoon’s EJ200s with thrust vectoring nozzles (TVN) could reduce fuel burn on a typical mission by up to 5%, while increasing available thrust in supersonic cruise by up to 7%, the engine consortium says.
Eurojet partner ITP benchtested a TVN several years ago, and EADS earlier this year equipped its Typhoon cockpit simulator to emulate the performance enhancements offered by the technology.
The industrial partners are now looking for funding to launch a flight-demonstrator programme.
Thrust vectoring could provide a virtual control surface when coupled with the Typhoon’s flight-control system, improving survivability, manoeuvrability and the aircraft’s ability to carry an asymmetric weapons load. It also reduces trim drag and therefore fuel consumption by “unloading” aerodynamic control surfaces.
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The TVN could be retofitted to the existing EJ200 without the need for structural changes to the engine or airframe, says Eurojet.
Even in Poland and Czech the Missile Shield was not very popular. Those who support it then where now left out in the rain(true, thats bad) but the whole deal sounds good.
The GBIs do not protect the american allies Israel, Turkey and the Nato-Members in South Europe anyway and the MRBM and SRBMs the Iran has today can not reach Western Europe or the USA. If the Iran would have ICBMs in the Future, maybe in 10-20 years, the US can counter with sea- and land based SM-3IIA and -IIB. The mobile Radars and SM-3 is more usable/flexibly too as the 10 fixed GBIs and cheaper (well, at least the price per unit of the missile is lower).
Russia is happy and allowed the new supply route for the troops in Afghanistan, even as the new strategy has the potential to be a greater Threat to the russian nuclear deterrence as the 10 GBIs would be ever capable off(but of course cannot save the US or Europe, we would still be all dead). Politics…
VIDEO: F-35 test pilot defends JSF’s dogfighting capability
Lockheed Martin F-35 chief test pilot Jon Beesley, standing today beneath the wing of the first prototype F-35, explains the fighter’s air-to-air capability relative to the F-16.
Is there any reason why the whole photo is sharp just the AESA antenna looks totally blurred? :confused:
secretiveness
One IRST with a limited search and track angle against a system that covers the whole aircraft from all angles. No chance for the Diephoon.
Apples und oranges?
As Lockheed released nearly nothing useful(like range, sensitive..) about DAS we dont know much besides where on the aircraft the sensores are placed and what purpose they should have.
Of course they cover more angles as die PIRATE but is it not realistic to think that the smaller DAS-sensors(they are without mirror, arent they?) have a lower range and sensitive as the PIRATE?
Again, as we know nearly nothing about DAS(and not much about PIRATE too) are comments like yours more as just a good start for the next flamewar?
Und eigendlich hatte ich dich nicht mit einem solchen arroganten Ton in Erinnerung. 😉
uruguayan navy (ex-bundesheer) Bo-105cb #062 with dayglo panels in sea operations…..
nice pics but…: ex-bundeswehr(germany).
Bundesheer is austrian 🙂
Well there is a lot of hype about piracy but let’s face it in one or two years time there will be ZERO piracy in that area.
Namely the Islamists will takeover in Somalia and they will enforce their tough laws and tackle the problem (as they have done in the past)…
I don’t think so..
Danke!
Is something like an fully armoured infantry fighting vehicle not a complete overkill for such a conflict? Of course, nice to have. But with armed light tanks like Fuchs you rule the situation. …
What Conflict? Eufor Chad/RCA? yep.
Really Shooting Wars like OEF? No
Why the German Army want do use a Puma, Boxer or even a Dingo instead of a Fuchs(light tank? 😀 )? The new tanks/armored vehicles are a lot better protectet against IED, Mines and in case of Boxer and Puma, RPGs and machine cannons
… Flying in partially assembled vehicles is ABSOLUTELY DEADLY for your logistics.
Tanks are naturally “ABSOLUTELY DEADLY” for your logistic if you only depends on air transportation.
You need a lot of fuel, ammunition and everytime minimum 1 revory vehicle who is most of the time as heavy as the tank.
So much for the use of add-on armor for overweight Pumas and Boxers.
The modular armor concept of the Puma is no disadvantage, its only different.
If you (EVER?) need a combat ready IFV out of the A400M, the Puma can.
If the Sitaution allowed you time and transport capacity, like eg. A-stan or iraq, you can uprade this IFV in short order with more armor. (Something everytime happens during conflicts and wars. Look eg. at the british Warrior or the Leopards in danish and canadian service.)
btw: With the Schutzstufe A(protection level?) the Puma have approximately eqal protection as others new IFV like Ulan or CV90.
sorry, i dont want write a whole thread about vehicles but…you know… :diablo:
Austria:
First of all: new Barracks, new personal gear, new cars und trucks :diablo:
– Anti-Tanks-Missiles for the Ulan
– the Leopards uprade to 2A6M
– 100-300 Pandur II (in the versions of Infantry Vehicle, Tank Hunter, Mortar ….)
– 72 Eurofighters
– 4 A330MRTT
– 10 A400 (with 4 air-to-air refuelling kits)
– participation with Salis (or something like that)
– 3-4 C-27
– 20 new Light Helicopters (eg: EC-135
– 31 more Black Hawks
– 9 Ch-53K (:diablo: )
Well the Eurofighter Gmbh sell Austria 18 T2 Typhoons for a fly-away-price of 63mio und system-price of 108 mio. This including spares, training, equipment for die Pilots, Simulator, somethin around 25 Iris-T and Financial costs etc. and please note: the production costs of the structural components getting lower
@USS novice: 200million? :confused:
108mio. Euro ->141mio. Dollar (not the fault of the aircraft, the euro is very strong)
Of course russian-(because of the low russian man-hour-cost) und US-Fighters(because they produce in Dollar) have some price adventages but european Fighter are not sooo expensive 😉
…unless u provide neutral source of EF great advantage over JAS-39A….
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Are you serious?
The Gripen and Eurofighter are two differant Fighters. Build for different Jobs and for that have different performances, with the Gripen the cheap and small one and the Eurofighter (nearly) without any compromise on flight performance.
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Sales of MiG-29 since Typhoon has been on the market have all been to countries which would not be allowed to buy Typhoon.
Well except Austria. Russia try to lobby the austrian government for the Mig-29M/M2. Despite good price(russian man-hours are cheaper as europeans) and nice performance the government and Air force never realy think about it. Why? High maintenance cost, russian system, bad experience during testings in the 90s (eg. they ask something about the radar and the Russians say: You are not allowed..), dependence from Russia.
The Typhoon is not light it has a weight as high as the MiG-35 and similar thrust to weight ratio
yep, when the Typhoon is overloaded (23,5t, 7.500 of this is external payload..I think this would be 4 GBU-10, + external fuel-tank, + Targeting pod, + 2 Iris-T/Asraam, + 4 Amraam) she is much more heavier as the Mig-29M…. well as you see not realy comperable. So lets make it comparable 😀 😉
Both types with full internal fuel (Typhoon 4.950kg, Mig-29M with something around 4.526 Kg ) and both with 4.500 payload(Because this is the max. payload of the Mig-29M). Now we have:
22.400kg Take of weight for the Mig-29M with full thrust of 2x 9000kg and 21.500kg for the Eurofighter with full thrust of 2x 9.178kg .
(source for the Typhoon-data: http://www.airpower.at, for the Mig-29M: your post)
edit: I have do say this numerbs for the Mig-29 are with the” normal” RD-33 of the M-Version. I am sure the newer Version (with more thrust und TVC) is heavier.
But even with the weight of the old und trust of the new Version the Typhoon has with the same payload a better thrust to weight ratio and more internal fuel.