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  • in reply to: Horsa Gliders Into Homes #1080178
    RPSmith
    Participant

    Ian, can you post some of the pics please??

    Roger smith.

    in reply to: Kestrel III Aeroengines #1080222
    RPSmith
    Participant

    Firebex, have you been in touch with R-RHT?

    I too saw the Peregrine on display (on the occasion of the AGM 10 days ago) but earlier we had been treated to a ‘film’ – a computer model of a Griffon running (with soundtrack added) and it was superb.

    There was, I think, mention of future projects of scanning/modelling other engines. Perhaps you could suggest the Peregrine?

    Roger Smith.

    in reply to: De Havilland Devon VP981 #1082952
    RPSmith
    Participant

    It seems correct that VP981 won’t be pleasure flying from Coventry this year and the only option is with Conciair.

    Roger Smith.

    in reply to: The Shackelton MR.3 at Duxford #1084484
    RPSmith
    Participant

    TO, the BAPC ‘advert’ didn’t give a location or identity so I still don’t know 🙁

    I could take a wild guess – but I’m not going to start any other rumours going.

    Roger Smith.

    in reply to: Museum of Flight, Seattle #1085062
    RPSmith
    Participant

    Enjoying these.

    Can’t be many (if any?) other places where you can see a Sabre and MiG-15 next to each other.

    Roger Smith.

    in reply to: Avro Shackleton WR963 Project Thread #1086405
    RPSmith
    Participant

    Just sent another one

    Roger Smith.

    in reply to: Aircraft Manufacturers reference books #1086407
    RPSmith
    Participant

    Thanks for the continuing input – it’s looking pretty impressive now.

    J.Boyle – have now included the SE Lockheeds. It would be great to have a similar list for individual types but, I think, is beyond my patience and perseverence!!!

    Al, the Vought book I got from a website listing 92 Putnam titles. I did a bit of googling which has given me an ISBN no of 0851778852 (or 53) published in December, 2000. Can’t get a cover illustration but there appear to be copies available on Amazon.de (Germany) from £43!!

    J.Boyle – I wonder if the publication of “North American Aircraft 1934 – 1999 Vols 1 & 2” by Kevin Thompson (presumably about 10 years ago) queered the pitch for Putnam and they withdrew ‘theirs’ ??

    Sunderlandnut raises a point I had been meaning to mention. Several publishers have done series’ of books covering aircraft manufacturers.
    Janes “Planemakers” – we’ve got No 4 Shorts and no 2 Westland
    Ian Allan “Aircraft Album” – Focke-Wulf?, Heinkel? Junkers? Messerschmitt? Avro? Bristol? Handley Page? Hawker? Boeing? North American (no. 6).
    Tempus – Folland, Handley Page, Parnall, Grumman, Sikorsky, Stearman’
    Chalford “Archive Photographs” – Junkers? Armstrong Whitworth, Blackburn? Hawker? SAAB?
    Narkiewicz/Thompson – seems to come up as a ‘Putnam-type’ series (at least by title)
    If anyone can make additions to these ranges I’d be grateful (or will have to go a-googling again)

    Finally, after I’ve added the latest version, I’m going to delete earlier versions in the thread (keep everything else) for the sake of brevity!

    Airframe Manufacturers – histories

    Directory of Airplanes, Their Designers and Manufacturers Dana Bell Greenhill/Stackpole
    The Encyclopedia of Aircraft Manufacturers Gunston Patrick Stephens

    AUSTRO-HUNGARY
    Austro-Hungarian Aircraft of World War 1 Haddow & Scheimer Flying Machine Pr

    BELGIUM
    Les Avions S.A.B.C.A. et associes French text Charles Mali ?

    CANADA
    Canadian Aircraft Since 1908 K.Molson Putnam

    Fleet – The Flying Years Page-Cumming Boston Mills Press

    CHINA
    Chinese Aircraft Gordon/Komissarov Hikoki
    Chinese Aviation(Encyc of Aircraft and Aviation in China until 1949) Lennart Anderson AHS of ROC

    CZECHOSLOVAKIA
    Tschechoslowakische Flugzeuge/Czechoslovakian Airplanes Hans-Joachim Mau Transpress

    DENMARK
    Kramme & Zeuthen (“Made In Denmark, The Kramme & Zeuthen H. Kofoed Dansk Veteranflysamling

    FRANCE
    French Aeroplanes Before The Great War Leonard E. Opdyke Schiffer
    French Aircraft of World War 1 Davilla Soltan Flying Machine Pr
    L’Aviation Civil Francaise 1919 – 1939 French/English text ? AVIA editions

    Bernard (“Les Avion Bernard”) French text Jean Liron Docavia
    Bleriot, Herald of an Age B.A. Elliott Tempus
    Dewoitine (“Les Avions Dewoitine”) French text Daniel and Cuny Docavia
    Liore et Olivier French text Gerard Hartmann ETAI
    Nieuport Aircraft of World War One Ray Sanger Crowood
    Nieuport 1909 – 1950 French text Resenthal, Marchand, Docavia
    Piel (“History de Pierres Precieuses Piel Aircraft”) Ehrhardt/Molveau Trait D’Union
    Renard (“Avions Renard”) Andre Hauet Editions AELR

    GERMANY
    German Aircraft of the First World War Peter Gray Putnam
    German Aircraft of the Second World War Antony Kay Putnam
    Die deutschen Militärflugzeuge 1910-1918 German text G.Kroschel/H.Stützer Mittler
    Die deutschen Militärflugzeuge 1919-1934 German text H.Stützer Mittler
    Die deutschen Flugboote German text Fred Gütschow Motorbuch-Verlag

    Dornier (Chronik des ältesten deutschen Flugzeugwerks) German text ? Aviatic Verlag
    Focke (Flugzeuge und Hubschrauber von Henrich Focke 1912-1961) Enno Springmann Aviatic Verlag
    Focke-Wulf J.R. Smith Ian Allan
    Heinkel P.St.John Turner Ian Allan
    Heinkel (Chronik und Typenblätter) German text ? Aviatic Verlag
    Horten Brothers and Their All-Wing Aircraft, The David Myrha ?
    Junkers P.St.John Turner Ian Allan
    Junkers Aircraft and Engines 1913 – 1945 Antony Kay Putnam
    Junkers – A Pioneer in Aviation Brian Walters Chalford
    Junkers (“Hugo Junkers and His Aircraft”) Gunter Schmitt Transpress
    Messerschmitt J.R. Smith Ian Allan
    Messerschmitt Anthony Prichard Vantage
    Messerschmitt (“Willy Messerschmitt – History of German Aviation”)Ebert,Kaiser,Peter Schiffer
    Zeppelin: Rigid Airships 1893 – 1940 P.W. Brooks Putnam

    GREAT BRITAIN
    British Aircraft Manufacturers Since 1908 C. Endres Ian Allan
    British Aircraft 1809 – 1914 Peter Lewis Putnam
    British Aircraft Before The Great War M.H. Goddall/A.E. Tagg Schiffer
    British Aeroplanes 1914 – 1918 J.M. Bruce Putnam
    British Civil Aircraft Since 1919 Vols. 1 – 3 A.J. Jackson Putnam
    British Commercial Aeroplanes 1920 – 1940 A.W.G. Ord-Hume GMS Enterprises
    British Light Aeroplanes 1920 – 1940 A.W.G. Ord-Hume GMS Enterprises
    British Homebuilt Aircraft Since 1920 Ken Ellis Merseyside Av Soc
    British Built Aircraft Vols. 1 – 5 Ron Smith Tempus Publishing

    Airco, The Aircraft Manufacturing Company Mick Davis Crowood
    Airspeed Aircraft Since 1931 H.A. Taylor Putnam
    Armstrong Whitworth Aircraft Since 1913 Oliver Tapper Putnam
    Armstrong Whitworth Aircraft Ray Williams Chalford
    Armstrong Whitworth Aircraft P.D. Stemp (author)
    Auster (“The History of the Auster Aeroplane”) A.V. Hitchman ?
    Austers, Nearly all you wanted to know Preston & Ames ?
    Auster A Brief History of the Auster Aircraft in Brit Military service Barry Ketley ?
    Avro E.A.Harlin/G.A.Jenks Ian Allan
    Avro Aircraft Since 1908 A.J. Jackson Putnam
    Avro The History of an Aircraft Company Harry Holmes Airlife
    Avro Aircraft Roger Jackson Alan Sutton
    Avro (Aircraft Photographs) Harry Holmes Chalford
    BAC – British Aircraft Corporation, A History Charles Gardner ?
    Blackburn Aircraft Company, The Malcolm Hall Chalford
    Blackburn Aircraft Since 1909 A.J. Jackson Putnam
    Blackburn Story 1909 – 1959, The ? Blackburn Aircraft Lt
    Boulton Paul Aircraft Alec Brew Alan Sutton
    Boulton Paul Aircraft Since 1915 Alec Brew Putnam
    Boulton Paul Aircraft (Archive Photographs) B.P.Association Chalford
    Bristol James D. Oughton Ian Allan
    Bristol, An Aircraft Album James D. Oughton Ian Allan
    Bristol Aerospace Since 1910 Geoff Green
    Bristol Aircraft Since 1910 C.H. Barnes Putnam
    Bristol Aircraft, The Book of D.A. Russell Harborough
    Bristol (“Filton And The Flying Machine”) Malcolm Hall Chalford
    British Aircraft Corporation (see BAC)
    Civilian Affair, A Eduard Winkler Flight Recorder Pub
    De Havilland Aircraft Since 1915 A.J. Jackson Putnam
    De Havilland The Golden Years 1919 – 1939 Richard Riding IPC Transport Press
    De Havilland Moths in Detail Stuart McKay Herridge & Sons
    De Havilland Biplane Transports Hays/King Gatwick A.S.
    De Havilland Dragon/Rapide Family John Hamlin Air Britain
    De Havilland Dragon Types, The Story of Colin Dodds Air Britain
    De Havilland – A Pictorial Tribute Gordon Bain Airlife
    De Havilland (“Magnificent Enterprise Moths, Majors & Minors”) Janic Geelen NZ Aviation Press
    English Electric Aircraft & Predecessors Ransom/Fairclough Putnam
    Fairey Aircraft Since 1915 Taylor Putnam
    Fairey Aviation (Aircraft Photographs) J.W.R. Taylor Chalford
    Folland (“Spirit of Hamble – Folland Aircraft”) Derek N. James Tempus
    Gloster Aircraft Since 1917 Derek James Putnam
    Gloster (“Gloucestershire Aviation – A History”) Ken Wixet Alan Sutton
    Handley Page D.C. Clayton Ian Allan
    Handley Page Aircraft Since 1907 C.H. Barnes Putnam
    Handley Page A History Alan Dowsett Tempus
    Handley Page Bombers of the First World War Chaz Bowyer Aston
    Handley Page (“Forty Years On… 1909 – 1949”) – Handley Page
    Hawker D.N. James Ian Allan
    Hawker Aircraft Since 1920 Francis Mason Putnam
    Hawker Aircraft Ltd Derek James Chalford
    Humber Story, The Demaus/Tarring Alan Sutton
    Martin Baker (“Engineering For Life, The Story of Martin Baker”) John Jewell Martin Baker
    Martinsyde File, The Ray Sanger Air Britain
    Miles Aircraft Since 1925 Don Brown Putnam
    Miles Aircraft, The Book of A.H. Lukins Harborough
    Miles Aircraft, The Early Years Peter Amos Air Britain
    Miles (“Wings Over Woodley, The Story of Miles Aircraft”) Julian Temple Aston
    Parnall Aircraft Since 1914 Ken Wixey Putnam
    Parnall’s Aircraft (Images Of England) Ken Wixey Tempus
    Percival and Hunting Aircraft John Silvester (author)
    Redwing Story, The John Lane Phyllis Lane
    Royal Aircraft Factory, Aeroplanes of the Paul Hare Crowood
    Royal Aircraft Factory, The Paul Hare Putnam
    Sage, Frederick & Co Ltd. (“Plane to Plane”) Martyn Chorlton Old Forge Pub
    Saunders and Saro Aircraft Since 1917 Peter London Putnam
    Saunders Roe: From Sea to Air, The Heritage of Sam Saunders Tagg and Wheeler ?
    Saunders Roe/BHC: From River to Sea, The Marine Heritage of
    Sam Saunders Raymond Wheeler ?
    Shorts Aircraft Since 1900 C.H. Barnes Putnam
    Shorts, Flying into the Future- A Pictorial History of Michael Donne Good
    Shorts (Planemakers 4) J.H. Taylor Janes
    Sopwith Bruce Robertson Harleyford
    Sopwith – The Man and His Aircrft Air Review Ltd
    Sopwith Aircraft Mick Davis Crowood
    Sopwith Aircraft, 1912 – 1920 H.F. King Putnam
    Supermarine Aircraft Since 1914 Andrews/Morgan Putnam
    Supermarine (Archive Photographs) Norman Barfield Chalford
    Supermarine Fighter Aircraft Victor Bingham Crowood
    Supermarine Attacker, Swift and Scimitar Philip Birtles Ian Allan
    Supermarine (“Schneider Trophy to Spitfire, Design Career
    of R.J. Mitchell John Shelton Haynes
    Vickers Aircraft Since 1908 Andrews/Morgan Putnam
    Westland Aircraft Since 1915 Derek James Putnam
    Westland (Planemakers 2) David Mondey Jane’s
    Westland Aircraft, The Book of A.H. Lukins Harborough
    Westland 50 Taylor and Allward Ian Allan
    Wight Aircraft, The/White, J. Samuel & Co. Michael H. Goodall Gentry

    HOLLAND
    Fokker: The Man and His Aircraft Henri Hegener Harleyford
    Fokker, His Men and Machines A.R.Weyl Putnam
    Fokker, The Creative Years A.R.Weyl ?
    Fokker: Fokker Commercial Aircraft Rene de Leeuw ?
    Fokker Aircraft Builders to the World Thijs Postma Jane’s
    Fokker Fighters of World War One (Vintage Warbirds no.6) Alex Imrie ?
    Koolhoven Wesserlink/Postima Roman Haarlem

    ITALY
    Aeroplani d’Italia dalle origini ad oggi Italian text Giorgio Apostolo Arnoldo Mondadori
    Caproni (“Aeroplani Caproni – Gianni Caproni and His Aircraft Abate,Alegi,Apostolo Museo Caproni

    JAPAN
    Japanese Aircraft 1910 – 1941 Robert Mikesh Putnam
    Japanese Aircraft of the Pacific War Rene Francillon Putnam

    POLAND
    Polish Aircraft 1893 – 1939 Jerzy B. Cynk Putnam

    Polskie Konstrukcje Lotnicze (series) Polish text Andrzej Glass Stratus (MMP)
    Samoloty RWD Duleba/Glass Bib-Skrzys Pol

    SWEDEN
    SAAB Aircraft Since 1937 Hans Andersson Putnam
    SAAB Aircraft Derek James Chalford
    SAAB-Scania Story, The – Streiffert

    USA
    U.S. Civil Aircraft Series Vols. 1 – 9 Joseph P. Juptner Tab Books/Aero Pu
    Whirlybirds, A History of U.S. Helicopter Pioneers Jay P. Spencer Univ of Washington

    Barkley-Grow (see General Dynamics)
    Beech William H. McDaniel ?
    Beech – Staggerwings To Starships Edward Phillips Flying Books
    Beech (“From Travel Air To Baron”) Larry A. Ball Cable Publishing
    Beech Aircraft and their Predecessors A.J. Pelletier Putnam
    Bell Aircraft Since 1935 A.J. Pelletier Putnam
    Bell Helicopter Textron Story, The David A. Brown Aerofax
    Bellanca’s Golden Age Abel, Abel, Matt Wind Canyon
    Boeing Munson/SwanboroughIan Allan
    Boeing (“Vision, A Saga of The Sky”) Harold Mansfield,Duell,Sloan & Pearce
    Boeing Guy Norris ?
    Boeing Aircraft Cutaways:The History of Boeing Aircraft Co. Michael Badrocke ?
    Boeing (“A Brief History of The Boeing Company”) – Boeing
    Boeing Aircraft Since 1916 Peter M. Bowers Putnam
    Boeing – Flypast Reference Library Donald Hannah Key
    Boeing, Planemakers To The World Redding/Yenne Crescent
    Boeing (“Legend and Legacy – The Story of Boeing”) R. Serling St. Martins
    Boeing 1916, Pedigree of Champions – Boeing
    Cessna’s Golden Age Abel, Abel, Matt Wind Canyon
    Cessna (“Wings Of Cessna”) Phillips Flying Books
    Cessna, A Master’s Expression Edward Phillips Flying Books
    Cessna Wings For The World – Vols I-III William Thompson Maverick
    Consolidated (see General Dynamics)
    Convair Advanced Designs Robert E. Bradley Speciality Press
    Convair (see also General Dynamics)
    Curtiss Aircraft 1907 – 1947 Peter M. Bowers Putnam
    Curtiss Fighter Aircraft, A Photographic History 1917-1948 Francis Dean ?
    Curtiss-Wright (“To Join With The Eagles – The Complete
    Story of Curtiss-Wright Aircraft”) Rubenstein/Goldman Doubleday
    Curtiss-Wright, Greatness and Decline Eltscher & Young Twayne
    Dayton Wright (see General Dynamics)
    Douglas Propliners A. Pearcy Airlife
    Fairchild Aircraft 1926 – 1987 Kent A. Mitchell Narkiewicz/Thompso
    General Dynamics Aircraft and Their Predecessors John Wegg Putnam
    Glenn Martin (see Martin Marietta)
    Grumman (Images of America) M.W. Bowman Tempus
    Grumman Aircraft Since 1929 Rene J. Francillon Putnam
    Grumman story, The R. Threlsen Praeger
    Grumman (“One Of A Kind – The Story Of Grumman”) Gunston TRH
    Hall Aluminium (see General Dynamics)
    Hiller (“Vertical Challenge – The Hiller Aircraft Story”) Jay P. Spenser 1st Books Library
    Kaman, Our Early Years Charles H. Kaman Curtis Publishing
    Learjets Geza Szurovy Motorbooks
    Lockheed Aircraft Since 1913 Rene Francillon Putnam
    Lockheed Martin’s Skunk Works J. Miller Midland Publishing
    Lockheed Bill Yenne Bison
    Lockheed (“The Lockheed Twins”) P.J. Marson Air Britain
    Lockheed (“Revolution In The Sky” – Pre-war SE Lockheeds) Richard Sanders Allen Orion
    Luscombe Swick Aviation Heritage
    Luscombes, The Stanley G. Thomas TAB Books
    Luscombe Story, The John Swick SunShine House
    Martin Aircraft 1909 – 1960 Breihan, Piet, Mason Narkiewicz/Thompso
    Martin Marietta/Glenn Martin (“Raise Heavan and Earth”) W. Harwood Simon & Schuster
    McDonnell Douglas Aircraft Since 1920 Rene Francillon Putnam
    McDonnell Douglas Aircraft Since 1920 Vol I Rene Francillon Putnam
    McDonnell Douglas Aircraft Since 1920 Vol II Rene Francillon Putnam
    Naval Aircraft Factory 1917 – 1956, History of (“Wings For The Navy”) Trimble Naval Institute Press
    North American (Aircraft Album no 6) G. Swanborough Ian Allan
    North American Aircraft 1934 – 1999, Vols 1 & 2 Kevin Thompson Narkiewicz/Thompso
    Northrop Story 1929 – 1939, The Richard sanders Allen Orion Books
    Piper (“Mr Piper and His Cubs”) Devon Francis (author)
    Piper Aircraft Pepperell & Smith Air Britain
    Piper, A Legend Aloft Edward H. Phillips Flying books
    Piper’s Golden Age Abel, Abel, Matt Wind Canyon Books
    Sikorsy (Images of America) J.W.R. Taylor Tempus
    Spartan Aircraft (USA) Chet Peek Aviation Heritage
    Stearman Aircraft, A Detailed History Edward H. Phillips Speciality Press
    Stearman (Images of America) Martin Bowman Tempus
    Stinson John Underwood Heritage
    Stinson (see also General Dynamics)
    Taylorcraft Story, The Chet Peek SunShine House
    Thomas Brothers (see General Dynamics)
    Thomas-Morse (see General Dynamics)
    TravelAir Phillips Flying Books
    Vought (“Aeroplanes Vought”) Gerard P. Moran Aviation Heritage Bo
    Vought Aircraft Since 1917 H.W. Cowin Putnam
    Vultee Aircraft 1932 – 1947 Jonathon Thompson Narkiewicz/Thompso
    Vultee (see alsoGeneral Dynamics)
    WACO – Symbol of Courage and Excellence F. Kobernus SunShine House

    USSR
    Soviet Aircraft and Aviation 1917 – 1941 Lennart Andersson Putnam
    Russian Aircraft Since 1940 Jean Alexander Putnam
    Russian Aircraft 1875 – 1995 Bill Gunston Osprey Aerospace

    Ilushin (OKB) A History Of The Design Bureau and It’s Aircraft Gordon/Kormissarov Midland Counties
    MiG Aircraft Since 1937 Gunston/Gordon Putnam
    MiG Dynasty David Oliver Airlife
    Tupolev Aircraft Since 1922 Gunston Putnam
    Yakovlev Aircraft Since 1924 Gunston/Gordon Putnam

    Aero Engine Manufacturers – histories

    Allison – The Power and The people Joan Zigmut ?
    Allison Engine Catalog 1915 – 2007, The ? RRHT TS9
    Armstrong Siddeley, The Parkside Story 1896 – 1939 Ray Cook RRHT 11
    Parkside – Armstrong Siddeley to Rolls-Royce 1939 – 1994 Roy Lawton RRHT 39
    de Havilland (“From Gypsy to Gem – with Diversions 1926-86”) Peter Stokes RRHT 10
    Douglas (UK engine manufacturer) Brian Thornby Redcliffe Press
    ENV (“Power for the Pioneers, The Green and ENV Aero-engines”)A E Tagg ?
    Flygmotor – Volvo Aero 1930-2005 Widfeldt/Fryklund Air Historic Research
    Green (see ENV)
    Junkers (see airframes listing)
    Napier, D and Son (“By Precision Into Power”) Alan Vessey Tempus
    Rolls-Royce – The Formative Years 1906 – 1939 RRHT 1
    Rolls-Royce – 1904 – 2004 – A Century of Innovation Howie/Pugh Rolls-Royce
    Rolls-Royce Aero Engines Bill Gunston ?
    Rover (“Pistons to Blades, Small Gas Turbine Developments by”) ? RRHT 34
    SAAB-SCANIA (see airframes listing)
    Sunbeam Aero Engines Alec Brew ?
    Wolseley Radial Engines: Lord Nuffield’sVenture Peter Seymour The History Press

    Roger Smith 10 .04.2011

    in reply to: Avro Shackleton WR963 Project Thread #1086413
    RPSmith
    Participant

    Rich, did you get my pm about bomb bay doors?

    Roger Smith.

    in reply to: Jetstream XX499 at Brooklands this afternoon. #1087670
    RPSmith
    Participant

    Nice to see. Does the Jetstream have any specific connections with Brooklands?

    Roger Smith.

    in reply to: C-47 The Coral Princess #1087674
    RPSmith
    Participant

    Can anyone make out the stencilling just below the windscreen – does it give any clues??

    Roger Smith.

    in reply to: XM603 Update #1087742
    RPSmith
    Participant

    Then there might be a competition to see who’d got the oldest equipment – Gaddafi’s troops, his opposition or the RAF :diablo:

    Roger Smith.

    in reply to: Concorde Project On The Thames #1088023
    RPSmith
    Participant

    ……..I understand that the Comet at Lyneham is to be moved and will ultimately end up at Cosford! …….

    Missed this piece of news – can you tell me more please?

    Roger Smith.

    in reply to: Help to identify aircraft type #1088036
    RPSmith
    Participant

    N97– yes but not N92–

    John

    the third digit/second number looks like the bottom of a “2” and not a “7”

    Roger Smith

    in reply to: Tracking down ex-Service aircrew ? Writing a book #1088040
    RPSmith
    Participant

    Why not contact Peter Forrester and suggest a liason – the end product could only be better surely?

    Roger Smith.

    in reply to: Concorde Project On The Thames #1088042
    RPSmith
    Participant

    The answer to the question why would business invest £20m in Concorde when they wouldn’t in the Vulcan seems, to me at least, to have a simple answer.

    With little experience or information to draw on would an astute business think they could see a profit in flying a large ex-miltary 4-jet around to air displays during the summer months. Has ANY ex-military jet made a continuous profit in the UK. Everyone knows the saying “the way to make a small fortune in flying old aircraft…..”

    As I (and others) have said, it is proposed that Concorde will be part of a visitor attraction and, I would assume, there are plenty of examples of those in London that DO turn a profit.

    Roger Smith.

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