I have been watching, still am watching, and most certainly will be watching Cees. Keep up the good work…..
and me
Roger Smith.
Yep, thread went dormant as had nowt to report – I had been visiting the site about once a week and my contact had promised to ring me when someone connected turned up. This he did yesterday lunchtime. His opinion a while back was that when they start to demolish a start would be made at the other end of the site. I now understand from him that it has a temporary reprieve (perhaps due to the economic situation) – in fact he is to rent a smaller adjoining building for a while.
Only had a short time to look inside and didn’t see any sign of any manufacturer’s plates. Yes, the roof structure (trusses) looks very different to a Bessoneau or at least the only plan I have seen of one.
Have e-mailed Stow Marie curator who had wished to be kept informed. I’ve not been able to post photos (yet) on Airfield Info… Forum – although one member there reckoned “it” had been sold to a museum in New Zealand!!! Trying to find out more.
Roger Smith.
Got inside at last this afternoon – Monday 6th April.
The structure is not the same as the plan I’ve seen for a Bessoneau. However the original building is wood – nearly all bolted together like a giant meccano set. Each of the triangular shaped uprights which hold the roof trusses are at 13′ 3″ pitch. It reminds me of a Robin hangar – but made out of wood. I’m pretty sure from further research it was erected c.1921 as the proposal plans for the attached much larger steel building date from 1922 and refer to it as “Hangar”.
At some time in it’s past it has had a large, heavy-duty first floor installed over about half-span either side of the ridge-line. This structure has replaced the roof trusses for that half-span (although the purlins look original).
So, in summary, we have a central modern steel framed building with a quarter of an original wood framed hangar either side of it.
Hopefully photos are attached.
Roger Smith.
I have sat in the cockpit of the one (2nd prototype?) at Coventry a couple of times and it is an impressive beast even though it will no longer fly plus having the loo in the nose must have been someones joke?
curlyboy
Something I have pondered about in recent years (not just applying to the Argosy) is the term “prototype” correct? – the type went straight into production.
Several of the early aircraft undertook manufacturer’s trials. ‘PRL did ‘hot & high’ trials in Africa and was converted to test the military ‘beaver tail’. She was later converted back and went into commercial service.
I thought I recalled that ‘PRL at MAM had the toilet positioned in the rear swing-door? could be just my memory playing up :confused:
Roger Smith.
Happy birthday RCAF.
Tom – the first of April has often been used by the British Government (and, I guess, they were involved in the formation of the RCAF at the time?) as a start date for laws, organisations. The RAF was started on 1st April, 1918.
Roger Smith.
Don’t forget rotary-wing gliders…
Benson marketed (plans & kits at least) a boat towed unpowered gyrocopter in the 60s.
It looked like a rowboat with a rotor.
I saw one of these on display when I visited The Helicopter Museum at Weston-super-Mare a few weeks back. As I recall the ‘boat’ part was more like a punt (square ends) and it simply had a cabane bolted to it with the rotor head on top. I took photos – but not developed yet 😮
The figure of eight built/sold springs to mind (in kit form?) but can’t remember whether the new owners had to supply their own hull.
Roger Smith.
Oh, the secret RAFM FE2 that’s going on display in July at Hendon?
……..in the Graham White Hangar ???:(
Roger Smith.
There were notices up saying photographs were not to be sold on for commercial use but no mention of any restriction on posting on forums. Brian
That’s pleasing – a reasonable position for them to take.
Roger Smith.
Nice set of photos Brian.
Have the RAFM now dropped their request that photos taken in the Beetham Conservation Centre are for ‘private’ use only?? IIRC other Forum members have refrained from posting.
Roger Smith.
Seem to recall having heard the suggested link between Meteor rear fuselage and Argosy boom before.
Should be meeting up with a friend who worked in the Baginton drawing office in about a week – I’ll ask him what he knows.
Roger Smith.
So? Don’t carry more than 19 people – just charge a little extra for the lost bums on seats…
Bob, Jetflap’s words “capable of carrying” are critical.
Roger Smith.
…… everyone had to start with little or no knowledge. …….
and some of us are still there 😀
Roger Smith.
Welcome – as long as you’ve got a thick skin and a warped sense of humour – you’ll be alright :D:D:D
Roger Smith.
Well I went – the fact I could go in on the concessionary rate was the decider 😉
Thanks for all the suggestions but, to sum up in one word, it was disappointing.
Here’s my question (I had written down in advance)
“Mr. Benn, As a government Minister you were often credited with being an advocate of the Anglo-French Concorde – playing a part in seeing the project through to fruition.
However some years earlier – in 1965 – you were a member of Harold Wilson’s Government that many believe delivered a mortal blow to Britain’s aircraft industry with the cancellation of the TSR.2, the P.1154 and AW.681.
The latter is very relevant to Coventry as many local people lost their jobs in the resulting closures of Hawker Siddeley’s Baginton and Whitley factories.
My question is – what part did you play in that decision, did you agree with it and, if not, how hard did you fight against it?”
The sound system at the venue was awful – I, and I’m sure other people, had difficulty hearing him and he couldn’t hear the questions put to him 😡
A woman went and sat next to him on stage to tell him what the questions were (or her interpretation of them) and, even though I took my written question to her, it still didn’t work and I didn’t get an answer to what I had asked!
It wasn’t AWB being evasive just an unfortunate/regrettable combination of poor hearing and poor sound.
I might look for an e-mail address for him and send my question – if I do and get an answer I’ll post it.
Roger Smith.
Has the Imperial Airways/HP 42 project died with the passing of John Farley??
Roger Smith.