Quite possible they are wartime – intended for construction as recognition models.
Coincidentally I have just today put a 1944/45 model plan for a Henschel Hs293 “Glider Bomb” on evilbay. It’s original price was 1/= and I suspect it was sold for that purpose.
Roger Smith.
Who knows, with the apparent quantity of Lancaster replicas, if “Dambusters” is a box-office success maybe it’ll turn into a trilogy. Augsburg has already been suggested (I’ll second that) which Lancaster raid might be best for a third. Something with a “Tallboy” (wonder-weapon) maybe the attack on the Tirpitz?
Roger Smith.
D.H.86 Maintenance Manual
Thought I had one of these somewhere – found it today (along with one for the D.H.90 dragonfly)
Unfortunately it doesn’t have details of the instrument panel I expected it to have.
Roger Smith
Fortunately, DH designs are perhaps better represented than any other British company.
Of the prewar transports, there are a few Fox Moths, a few Dragons, quite a few Rapides and two Dragonflies still in the air. Postwar is not so well represented, although there are still a dozen or so Doves active, and one or two Herons.
They fall below the weight restrictions, so they dont come under the EU rules.
Bruce
I thought Rapides were to have some (minor) mods – ie anti-collision beacons.
Roger Smith.
….Lets just hope it looks better than the BoB Stukas
Moggy
Some of the Ju 87 models made were pretty good. Can’t remember from the film how accurate the flying models were only that, when they were blown up, it was VERY obvious they were models
Roger Smith.
Engineering
…… Also I’ve heard about these course’s that are run at places like duxford where you can learn skills of yester-year so you can restore/work on old aircraft can anyone shed any light on this?…..
I suspect this may be the B.A.P.C.’s National Aviation Heritage Skills Initiative. I think you need to be a member of a BAPC member group to participate but to find out more go to:
http://www.nahsi.org.uk/
Good luck,
Roger Smith.
Blimey this got deep!……..
I’ll second that 😮 I’ve tried to keep up.
Whilst I fall generally into the camp that believes “stunning” or “statement” designs deliver less accomodation per £ than a bog-standard “shed” I’m about to do a bit of “shooting my own foot” here.
I don’t think anyone has yet brought volume into the equation.
When I was involved in the design/building (yes, architects were involved and WE had the problem you sometimes hear about of them not listening to their Client) of The Sir Frank Whittle Jet Heritage Centre at MAM we debated long and hard about the two alternatives of use. First to cram as much of the collection in as possible (thus protecting more aircraft from the elements) or second to put fewer aeroplanes in and enable visitors to look at them properly (and be able to photograph them). We chose (for better or worse) the second option (although you may not guess that now).
However, aware that our “shed” – like most aircraft hangars – had a height greater than neccessary we not only built it still a little higher but called for the design calculations to enable (lighter) aircraft to be suspended from the roof beams. The extra height also allowed for an internal two-story section to be built later without loss of floor space. The budget was about £120,000 and provided 10,000 sq.ft. of floor space – thus about £120/sq. ft. (in 1987?).
The point I’m (eventually) getting to is that Cosford (and I haven’t been there yet), despite comments about aircraft being cramped/un-photographable, utilises it’s full volume. You can say the same about the AAM and (much as I dislike it and I have seen it) AirSpace.
Roger Smith.
Oh no – my memory playing up again :-(. You’re right Creaking Door – Guy Gibson WASN’T born in Rugby (in Simla, India according to Wikipedia). But I am sure he married a Coventry woman – it could be that their marital home was in Rugby??
Thanks Jimbo27 I tried to look at the London Gazette site but couldn’t get p.581 to open 🙁
Thanks Stan – that’s some of the info I couldn’t get at.
Roger Smith.
….. This was how the J29 ended up at Coventry, as the aircraft reverted back to the Swedish AF after Southend failed and was subsequntly then loaned by them to the MAM…….
Mark, it’s a long time ago but my recollection is that the Swedes were persuaded to donate the J.29 after it was pointed out how much work would be required to restore it and make it displayable. This “persuasion” extended to them delivering a replacement canopy to Baginton.
Roger Smith.
Martin,
There are, I believe, three sources for original plans.
Mignet’s book (in French of course) “Le Sport de l’air” (not sure if I’ve spelt it right).
The 1930’s English translation (I think with the same title) by the Air League.
The plans were serialized in “Popular Mechanics”(?)
An old friend Mick Abbey had the second on the list that we used to build the ‘new’ fuselage for G-AEGV at MAM.
Have you tried the library there? 😀
Roger Smith.
So, did the RAF operate Harriers as “fighters” or were they all “ground attack” aircraft???
I remember publicity a long time ago about the Harrier’s advantage in dog-fighting using the thrust nozzles to slow down suddenly, be overtaken by a pursuer, then becoming pursuer.
Roger Smith.
I’m keen to make contact with Richard. He worked closely with my mother and Adrian in the past but I don’t know where he is now that he has retired from Aeroplane Monthly. I’d also be glad of any corrections and suggested additions to my entries made so far on the site.
Have you asked Aeroplane Monthly to pass on a message to RR? I think he still contributes articles – wasn’t there a second one a few months ago about his father Eddie’s pre-war travels?
Good luck with your website – I shall follow it’s progress with interest (solely as someone who admires the Swift).
Roger Smith.
PS perhaps one of the mods will open a Comper thread for you?
PPS have yopu got to using the search facility yet – the Swift has cropped up a lot over the years 🙂
…..Perhaps there are those who have noticed similar ‘exhibits ‘ at French airfields?
When I went on several of Bob Ogden’s European tours in the early 1970s it was Dassault Ouragans – it seemed that every little airfield in France had one. I always wanted one – wish they were still around.
Roger Smith.
and there was me thinking this was another thread about Fairford – isn’t the English language wonderful :D:D
Roger Smith.
Rob, have you consulted the magnificent thread on WW1 survivors? (I still say it would be nice to have it published 🙂 )
http://forum.keypublishing.co.uk/showthread.php?t=66462&highlight=World+War+survivors
Roger Smith.