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  • in reply to: Merlins Over Malta Departure update! #1395001
    EN830
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    Blimey,is this one of the longest civilian warbird flights made,especially by single engined aircraft?.
    Good luck,bet they will look good over the sunny lands & blue skies,not like last Sunday at Duxford LOL.

    No I asked that a few weeks ago, and it transpires that our Colonial friends often fly much further between airshows.

    in reply to: Merlins Over Malta Departure update! #1395487
    EN830
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    Thanks Glenn that gives me enough time to finish work, collect the car and get to the airport. Tell your dad and Charlie to take their time !!!! Is the Chipmunk coming with them ?

    in reply to: Merlins Over Malta Departure update! #1396008
    EN830
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    Hi Glenn

    What is the flying time to Jersey, I will try to get to the airport tomorrow afternoon to photograph their arrival.

    in reply to: Faces from the Blue #1397810
    EN830
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    I honestly don’t know. Maybe Messers Grey aren’t photogenic. 🙂

    Is it a problem, has it stopped you from purchasing a copy ?

    in reply to: RESTORATION UPDATES #1397819
    EN830
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    I think the answers to the majority of the questions are, “When it’s Finished” 😉

    Certainly HAC’s YAK1

    in reply to: Duxford 10/09/05 #485955
    EN830
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    Invest in photoshop Anna, it works wonders.

    in reply to: WW2 Lancaster Loss – Any Help appreciated #1399533
    EN830
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    I’ve crossed referenced BCWD to BCL 1944, just looking at raids against Flying Bomb sites or storage facilities, or any mention of V2 raids. These took place between 16 June and 28 August 1944. The V1 launch sites in the Pas de Calais area were overrun and captured by Allied forces a few days later. Apart from the chap already mentioned I could only find one other Murray (Murrie), an E G Murray killed on 25 August 1944.

    Until anyone else proves differently or further information is forthcoming, my money is on Sgt J Murray of 3rd August 1944, being our chap.

    in reply to: WW2 Lancaster Loss – Any Help appreciated #1399552
    EN830
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    I’d favour V1 also, though there is the famous V2 bunker just outside St Omer, which is, indeed, North of Paris. Moggy

    As far as I can ascertain the last Bomber Command operation to the St Omer area (Listed in BCWD) was on 30/31 August 1943, to bomb a supply dump in the Forêt d’Eperlecques area, just North of St Omer. 2 Wellingtons were lost on this sortie.

    in reply to: Rumour about scrapping of Manchester RJX? #1400967
    EN830
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    There are several more still flying, so the loss of one won’t matter that much will it ? And in any case it’s only an aero bus with four hair driers strapped to the wings, so hardly counts as hysteric 🙂

    in reply to: WW2 Lancaster Loss – Any Help appreciated #1401870
    EN830
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    Nothing fits the bill from Chorleys OTU and HCU losses 1940 – 47.

    in reply to: WW2 Lancaster Loss – Any Help appreciated #1401871
    EN830
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    Hmm, the 625 Sqdn loss on 3rd August doesn’t seem to tie in too well with the other tid bits supplied by Andrew O.

    Another thought…..since Murrie/Murray jumped he should be a member of the Caterpiller Club. Do they keep records of all who were awarded the pin badge and circumstances of when their life was saved by a parachute?

    They do to the greater extent, the difference from the details that Andrew O posted here and emailed to me at work is that, Murrie is thought to be the only survivor from the crew, who were supposed to be all Canadian. However these details may not have stood the test of time, and may have been mixed up by 2nd, 3rd even 4th hand accounts.

    Several months ago I was approached by a friend of mine who asked if I could look into a relative of his who was a Spitfire pilot, lost in action over Holland. When I delved into the details, it transpired that this relative was not on Spitfires, in fact he was a mid upper gunner on Lancasters, the family had embellished his service record which had written in family folk law over the years. It was sad to tell them he wasn’t what they thought he was, but for the purpose of the family tree it was proper to get the facts right.

    I’m not saying that this is what has happened here, but it is possible that facts have got mixed up over the past 60 years, and so far J Murray and 3rd August 1944 V1 raids is the closest we can find to the person Andrew O is looking for, and it has given him a lead to follow with this Murrays POW number. It’s worth persuing to the end even if in the end it proves negative.

    The Bomber command attacks of August 3 1944 were all aimed at V1 storage sites at Bois de Cassan, Forêt de Nieppe and Trossy-St-Maxim, in total 1,114 aircraft took part, 601 Lancasters, 492 Halifaxes 21 Mosquitoes, 6 Lancasters were lost, 5 from the Trossy raid and 1 from the Bois de Cassan raid.

    in reply to: WW2 Lancaster Loss – Any Help appreciated #1402921
    EN830
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    Has anyone checked the Escape/Evasion lists to see if there is a Murrie/Murray listed for 1944 since he may not be showing as a POW?

    On my rather extensive trawl through Chorleys BCL 1944, I didn’t come across anyone by the name Murrie who was a POW, Injured or Evaded.

    Murray from 625 Sqn on 3 August 1944 was taken POW.

    The other J Murray may have evaded but as he was crew on a Halifax detailed on a Gardening sortie to Holland I dismissed this one as not fitting the form.

    in reply to: WW2 Lancaster Loss – Any Help appreciated #1402945
    EN830
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    Perhaps extending the Chorley trawl to March and April 1944 might just bear fruit, although EN830 has already put in a great amount of searching on this

    I trawled from January through to beginning of October, there is another F/O J Murray, who survived the shooting down of his Halifax during a Gardening sortie to Holland in early 1944.

    I did not come across anyone by the name Murrie listed as POW, INJ or EVD.

    in reply to: WW2 Lancaster Loss – Any Help appreciated #1403164
    EN830
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    You’re certainly plugging away at it 🙂
    However I do feel the fact that the latest information from Andrew that all the other six crew were killed on impact, and the survival of five members of the LM163 crew must cast a lot of doubt that there is a connectionMoggy

    Some other info that Andy forwarded to me was that Murrie was shot down during the summer 1944 North of Paris operating against V2 sites.

    I’ve queried this because the first V2 wasn’t launched against London until September 1944, and came as a bit of a shock to the Allies. I also question the fact that the V2 was basically mobile, and whether Bomber Command would have been in a position to attack such a target efficiently. France to the greater extent was liberated by the end of September 1944, except for the odd pocket of resistance so that has a puts a question mark against this as well.

    Being that the details Andy emailed to me state North of Paris, I am leaning towards V1 sites in the Pas de Calais, though the allies knew something about the V1 back in 1943, the first weren’t launched from these sites until 12 June 1944. As these sites were fixed, they would provide much more of an appropriate target than the V2 launchers for Bomber Command.

    This all fits in with the details of the raid on August 3rd 1944, and as I have said to Andy, getting information 2nd, 3rd or 4th hand can be like playing Chinese whispers.

    I may be fitting the details to the event, but without anything else to go on !!!!

    in reply to: WW2 Lancaster Loss – Any Help appreciated #1403325
    EN830
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    I’ve had another trawl through Chorley’s BCL 1944 from January to October 1944, concentrating mainly on the period between May and September 1944, when the majority of the French operations took place, the only entry that I can find that comes close to Andrew-O’s original details is the one listed above, “Sgt J Murray” 3 August 1944.

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