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    It’s wonderful that people can be PC with the luxury of hindsight. If the reverse had happened and the invasion of Japan had gone ahead as planned without the dropping of the two bombs. These people would be saying today “if we had the ‘A’ bomb, and it would have saved millions of lives why didn’t we use it instead of launching the invasion”.

    No doubt that it’s a terrible weapon, and if it falls into the wrong hands will be with horrific consequences, however 59 years ago it was debatably the lesser of two evils.

    The B29 should not be stigmatised by the fact that it was used for the dropping of the two bombs on Hiroshima and Nagasaki.

    in reply to: 617 Squadron P51 Mustang #1615863
    EN830
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    We have a former 617 Sqn pilot living here in Jersey Ken Trent, he’s a relation of Sqn Ldr Leonard Trent VC who was award the Cross for the disastrous 487 Sqn Ventura raid in May 1943. I’m not sure if he was with the Squadron at the same time as Cheshire, I do know that he dropped several tallboys and maybe a Grand Slam.

    I could drop him a line if you want ?????

    in reply to: Humour me #1966758
    EN830
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    1. Certain perfumes but I couldn’t tell you which ones.

    2. Money, then I could also own warbirds and not just watch them.

    3. No good at cheating, I’ve been caught out before. Stuck to the path for the past 13 years, it’s far less hassle.

    4. Adolf Hitler, to see if there was any compassion in him.

    in reply to: Jeff Hawke #1616024
    EN830
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    I’ll have a chat with my friend and come back to you all, drop me a PM with your addresses on.

    Ian

    in reply to: Oldest front-line aircraft #1616484
    EN830
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    How about the RAFs Nimrod fleet they date back to the fifties

    I saw something on TV last night that said they first entered service in 1969.

    in reply to: Jeff Hawke #1616491
    EN830
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    Did you sort out the videos, I know someone who has a copy which I can borrow and transfer to DVD.

    in reply to: Hitch Hikers Guide to the Galaxy – new series #1966886
    EN830
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    So long and thanks for all the fish.

    in reply to: Hitch Hikers Guide to the Galaxy – new series #1967037
    EN830
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    42 !!!!!!

    in reply to: Spitfire With D.B. Engine #1788548
    EN830
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    Here you go

    Spitfire Vb serial EN830 / NX-X fell into German hands late in 1942. It crash landed on November 18th 1942 while being flown by P/O (Sous Lt.) Bernard Scheidhauer of the Free French Air Force, attached to 131 “County of Kent” Sqn. RAF. He and his No.1, P/O Henri de Bordas, had been on a “rhubarb” to Normandy during the afternoon. EN830 was hit by light flak and made a forced landing in a turnip field at Dielament Manor, Trinity, Jersey.

    Sous Lt Scheidhauer was taken prisoner by the Germans and, like his aircraft, was transported to Germany. On March 24th, 1944 he and 80 other RAF officers escaped from Stalag Luft 3. He was captured along with his escape partner Sq. Ldr. Roger Bushell in Saarbrucken. The were both shot for their part in the “Great Escape” on 28th March 1944. His aircraft was captured virtually intact, and in good enough condition to be flown in November 1943, with black crosses in place of RAF roundels, to Rechlin for testing.

    In early spring of 1941, another Spitfire had been tested here. A suggestion that it be tested with a Daimler-Benz engine to enable a more direct comparison with the Luftwaffes’ Messerschmitt Bf.109 led to it being flown to the Daimler-Benz facility at Backnang, near Stuttgart, on April 24, 1941. There it was to receive a DB 601 engine. This work proved to difficult and the project was abandoned. That aircraft returned to Rechlin on September 9, 1942.

    The acquisition of the second Spitfire, EN830, revived the idea. The Spitfire was sent to Echterdingen, south of Stuttgart, where Daimler-Benz operated a flight testing division. Flugkapitän Willy Ellenreider and his staff were responsible for testing to improve performance of other current aircraft, and a number of types served as flying test-beds. Among them were Ju.52s with a DB 605 engine in the centre position; He.111s, Hs.130s, Bf.109s and 110s, a Ju.87 and an Fi.167.

    Spitfire EN830 was repainted to German standards, dark green above and pale blue below, with bright yellow tail control surfaces and large, black crosses. Radio code letters CJ+ZY were painted on each side, below and, unusually, above the wings; and the British serial transferred to the fin above the swastika.

    The Spitfire reached Echterdingen minus guns and ammunition, with the gun ports closed. The radio had been replaced with ballast, but it still had its original Merlin 45 engine. Several flights were made by Daimler-Benz pilots before conversion was attempted. A decision was made to replace the intruments and the entire electrical system with standard German equipment, because the Luftwaffe used a 24 volt system, whilst the RAF used a 12 volt standard.

    After the Merlin engine was removed, it was discovered that the Spitfire’s front fuselage cross-section was very close to that of the standard Bf.110G’s engine cowling. A new engine support was designed, and a standard DB 605A-1 engine (Wk-Nr 00701990) was mounted to the fire wall. The work was completed at the Sindelfingen Daimler-Benz factory, near Echterdingen.

    A 3.0 m. diameter Bf.109G propellor was added, together with the carburettor scoop from a Bf.109G. This made the modified Spitfire’s all-up weight, without armament, 6,020 lb. (2730 kg). The armament weight was an estimated additional 661 lb. (300 kg.). Its weight with armament, before the engine modification, had been 6,680 lb. (3030 kg.).

    After a couple of weeks, and with a new yellow-painted nose, the Spitfire returne to Echterdingen. Ellenreider was the first to try the aircraft. He was stunned that the aircraft had much better visibility and handling on the ground than the Bf.109. It took off before he realised it and had an impressive climb rate, around 70 ft. (21 m.) per second. Much of the Spitfire’s better handling could be attributed to its lower wing loading.

    The Spitfire’s wing area was about 54 sq. ft. (5m²) greater than that of the Bf.109. The Messerschmitt was faster at low altitude, but at 11,000 ft. (3350 m) the speeds evened out. The DB 605A engine gave better performance, according to the test group, than the Merlin, which was rated 150 hp below the German engine. It gave the Spitfire a ceiling of 41,666 ft. (12700 m.), about 3,280 ft. (1000 m.) more than a Bf.109G with the same engine and 5,166 ft. (1475 m.) more than that of a Spitfire Mk.V.

    After a brief period at Rechlin confirming the performance data, the modified Spitfire returned to Echterdingen to serve officially as a test bed. It was popular with the pilots in and out of working hours. Its career ended on 14th August, 1944, when a formation of US bombers attacked Echterdingen, wrecking two Ju.52s, three Bf.109Gs, a Bf.109H V1, an FW.190 V16, an Me.410 and the Spitfire. The remains of the hybrid Spitfire were scrapped at the Klemm factory at Böblingen

    in reply to: Spitfire With D.B. Engine #1788558
    EN830
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    I have never in 23 years of knowing about this Aircraft, Found any performance Data 🙁 , Does anyone out there Know anything at all :confused: , Cheers, Tally Ho! Phil ;)(P.S. Thanks Daz I thought it might get your eye)Bye :p

    Yes I have it, but not to hand. Basically the Spitfire fitted with the DB engine was inferior in all aspects except for rate of climb, however this was attributed to the fact that it had had its weapons removed. What the Germans were trying to prove is not sure. They had to modify the electrics from 12 to 24 volts and also the cooling system to accomodate the DB engine.

    If someone else doesn’t beat me to it I’ll dig out the details tonight and post them here.

    in reply to: TYPHOON #1788559
    EN830
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    See if you can pick the two imposters I sliped in :p , Tally Ho! Phil 😉

    Tempest and Tornado ?????

    in reply to: Spitfire With D.B. Engine #1788583
    EN830
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    Looks pretty good I think 😀 , Much better than a 109 with a merlin :rolleyes: , I love the B of B movie, But never liked the 109s with merlins :p , Growing up I always picked the fakes such as T-6s playing Zeros and 108s playing 109s and such, But with out the ugly spanish 109s there would have been not much of a movie I guess :rolleyes: , Cheers everyone, Tally Ho! Phil 😉 and a German static Spit.

    EN830, Spitfire Vb crash landed in Jersey 18 November 1942, Pilot was P/O Sous Lt Bernard William Martial Scheidhauer of the Free French Air Force serving with 131 (County of Kent) Sqn. He accompanied Sqn Ldr Roger Bushell on the night of March 24 1944 when 76 RAF airmen escaped from Stalag Luft 111, he and Bushell were shot just outside of Saarbrucken.

    in reply to: French Beastie #1792956
    EN830
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    yup

    definitely an eye-catcher

    here another view

    Cheers
    Martin

    But not good looking, typical French really.

    EN830
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    I have that she was taken into service 4/40, completed 11/41, sunk 12/11/42. From Ships of the Royal Navy vol2, by JJ Colledge.
    Maybe your RAF man was positioning the AA guns?

    The pilot flew Beaufighter’s until September 41 and Whirlwind’s from February 42 until December 42. From what I can gather it was somesort of flying role.

    in reply to: New look aviation website #1793277
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    Sorry Guys go and flame somewhere else.

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