dark light

EN830

Forum Replies Created

Viewing 15 posts - 316 through 330 (of 4,978 total)
  • Author
    Posts
  • in reply to: Selling Photographs, what price ? #448115
    EN830
    Participant

    If you did it right, you could make alot of money during the Airshow season, by even setting up a stall at a local town near X airshow or if you could happen to get permission to sell at an event or even hand out fliers, to people with a weblink and you just print and frame what they order.

    I don’t think it would be that easy, taking at the airshow and selling on site, as the majority of attendees will have their own equipment and will be taking their own. The work flow could also be quite high considering the number of images taken at an airshow and how quickly they could be sorted to filter out the crap.

    Not quite relevant here, but what does sell and sells very well are images of peoples animals and if given permission to take them, children. We recently took our event unit to a dog agility festival and cleared enough in two days to buy a generator for the unit and part way towards a WFT transmitter unit for the cameras.

    I have thought that using a prop such as a cockpit section with a suitable back drop may be an angle to try at airshows. However, for us, that will sometime down the road before we can even contemplate trying it.

    Out of interest this is our unit on site at the local steam museum on May 9th.
    http://i26.photobucket.com/albums/c131/en830/Misc/SM_020fp.jpg

    in reply to: Selling Photographs, what price ? #448119
    EN830
    Participant

    That said, there’s some truely inspirational work on there (like this guys: http://www.jetphotos.net/showphotos.php?userid=15497)Paul

    I agree Paul, we can all aspire to take such images.

    in reply to: Selling Photographs, what price ? #448122
    EN830
    Participant

    Sorry I thought we were talking about the principles of photography not the exact period of history, I stand corrected.

    Again my point is the principles are the same, you press a button, a shutter opens, light is let in by the aperture onto a medium, whether that is film a digital sensor or straight onto silver or chloride emulsions, the science is the same. Yes all act in a different way to each other and produce different results, but DoF, exposure, focus are all still as important to each other.

    I’ll give you an example of why I think JP is at times just a happy snappy dumping ground and ask you what quality this photo has ? I know the photographer and see him on a regular basis, I also know that he vehemently refuses to change his settings sticking to the tried and tested sports mode on his 350D. The last time I saw him to speak too for any length he was taking anything and everything to get his 1,000th photo on JP.

    http://i26.photobucket.com/albums/c131/en830/Misc/66173_1228398189.jpg

    I don’t class myself or my wife as professional photographers, we both have day jobs, but set up our photography business in order to pay for the hobby. It may come to a point whereby we are doing it as our main source of income but that is a long way off as the current income wouldn’t come even close to paying a third of our mortgage.

    I also don’t profess to know everything there is, I’m learning something every time I pick up my camera and there are far more proficient aviation photographers around than I will ever be, the talents of which I can only aspire too. Also as I live on an island it limits my access to interesting aviation subjects, so I have to make do with other topics.

    Out of interest by the end of May we will have covered 2 weddings, 1 christening, 1 funeral, a Tai Kwon Do grading event, a dog agility festival, two Catholic first communions and a Liberation Day celebration event at our local steam museum. On the back of these events and the images we have sold, we have three full weekends booked in June including two more weddings, a local motoring festival, a celebrity cricket function, and the local air rally. July is similarly booked up as is August, during which we will be flown down to Florence to cover a wedding for a local lawyer. So we must be doing something right and our past clients have been pleased with what we have accomplished.

    There are aspects that in time I would like to master such as portraiture and the use of studio lights. Hopefully in time and with the funds available it will be something we will get to tackle more proficiently than we are at present.

    in reply to: Selling Photographs, what price ? #448128
    EN830
    Participant

    That isn’t true at all. Depth of field increases as the recording medium gets smaller; an APS-C sensor has greater DoF than a full frame digital sensor or 35mm film (with the appropriate adjustment in focal length to give the same field of view). Film and digital also respond in very different ways, you can overexpose and push film in ways that would look horrendous if you did the same on digital. They’re very, very different mediums. Paul

    You misunderstood me, the principle is the same no matter what medium and has been for hundreds of years.

    As for the quality of the shots being accepted to JP, I disagree with your analysis of quality many are just technically inept snap shots, taken with the intention of getting a certain/record/hugh (delete where applicable) number of shots onto the site with little thought given to how the shot is taken, especially where prop driven aircraft are concerned.

    I grant there are many well executed photographs that anyone with an interest would be proud to have taken, equally there are many that aren’t.

    in reply to: Selling Photographs, what price ? #448141
    EN830
    Participant

    Duxford, I would say in some respects you are right, exposure, focus, DoF etc are all the same no matter if its film or digital, Box Brownie or EOS 1DS Mk3.

    The real upside with digital is the instance play back and the ability to retake straight away if things aren’t quite what you wanted or expected.

    I wouldn’t be surprised if the majority of people who post here haven’t improved their photography in some way by using digital.

    Robbo we maybe be backward but not everyone here is a fool and if the turnover from the past month is anything to go by, we maybe giving up the day jobs much sooner that we anticipated, all I can say is both the dead and dog owners pay dividends 😉

    in reply to: Selling Photographs, what price ? #448143
    EN830
    Participant

    Ian, did you mention the existance of the real world to the seller?

    Rob the seller wasn’t in attendance when we were there but I’m sure our paths will cross at some point.

    I really don’t agree with that! If it were true then I wouldn’t reject as many images as I do on the aviation photography site I screen for. Paul

    That’s another debate as quality is in the eye of the beholder, sadly many of the images that make it onto the aviation photography forums are not that superb and little more than sports programme snap shots.

    in reply to: Selling Photographs, what price ? #448246
    EN830
    Participant

    I’d like to see their sales figures!

    Anyone with the slightest bit of sense wouldn’t touch photos like that with a barge pole.

    If you’re looking to sell images, keep the price modest to begin with. Are you looking to sell at exhibitions mainly or also online?

    Including fancy frames bumps up the cost and is far more expensive to send out to customers. I find selling digital negatives much more cost affective, and is something worth considering.

    Thanks for the advice GE. Having set up own photography business 16 months, covering everything from weddings to dog agility shows we are well aware of what sells and what doesn’t.

    If the images we saw on show sell for anywhere near the asking price then there is something very wrong.

    P.S. We are not trying to sell the images we posted, we wouldn’t consider it. We used them as a representation of what we saw in a local gallery.

    in reply to: Selling Photographs, what price ? #448255
    EN830
    Participant

    Duxfordhawk, we don’t take any offence. These are our own images and we agree “CRAP”.

    However we were at any exhibition this afternoon where they images were a lot worse that this. The highest asking price is for a taxing shot of Pink Lady, the shot is taken from the rear at a fairly high shutter speed, with a back drop of a grey sky and a Chinook way off in the distance. It’s printed to about A1, mounted and framed. They’re asking £5.00 shy of £500 for it. Oh I forgot to say they had cropped part of the tail off in the process.

    There are various long distant and grainy shots of the Arrows ranging from £245 to £395. An out of focus taxing shot of a Red Arrow, minus part of it’s tail, a bland static shot of Old Crow, minus part of it’s tail and also a bland static of the Dukes B25 all for £395 a piece.

    While we were there a couple came in and promptly fell about laughing when they saw the prices. They were looking at a shot of the Morane Saulnier MS-760 Paris which was basically a small cross shaped object on a large back ground of grey, £425.

    I know it’s a matter of taste and all that, but !!!

    in reply to: New Billy Fiske article… #1169782
    EN830
    Participant

    There is an article about Billy Fiske in the May issue of Classic and Sportscar.It might change some of your opinions about the young man.

    In what way John ?

    in reply to: The Death of LAC Doug Ellerbeck P.U.T #1170329
    EN830
    Participant

    A poster on another forum turned up the following info for me :-

    Oxford R5957 (Mk I) of 14 FTS, crashed Monday 27th February 1941.
    Halley : Turned after night take-off and flew into ground 1m N of Sibson, 27.2.41

    14 FTS ORB : Cranfield
    27/2/41 Oxford R5957 crashed at Sibson RLG during night flying. Both the instructor and pupil F/O M I F Green and LAC D C Ellerbeck were killed
    1180

    BCPASPA : 86658 Flg Off (Plt Instr) Maurice Ivan Frank Green, RAFVR, 26, of Norwich. ACA. Norwich (The Rosary) Cemetery, Norfolk.
    928881 LAC (Plt U/T) Douglas Charles M Ellerbeck, RAFVR. Sandy Cemetery, Bedfordshire.

    The primary source above is the units Operations Record Book (ORB).

    I wonder if I could ask a favour. If anyone is passing through Sandy at some point, could they get me a photograph of LAC Ellerbecks grave ?

    in reply to: Photoshopping WW2 pictures #1191872
    EN830
    Participant

    Some where on this forum there is a tutorial from Snapper on how to photoshop old photographs.

    in reply to: Eurofighter Typhoon for Duxford #1198178
    EN830
    Participant

    OAs far as I know a Eurofighter Typhoon is proper Typhoon as well.

    Not according to the Germans.

    in reply to: Eurofighter Typhoon for Duxford #1198310
    EN830
    Participant

    More interesting if was a proper Typhoon.

    in reply to: A Helicopter thread #487047
    EN830
    Participant

    As boring as they are, one from me :-

    http://i26.photobucket.com/albums/c131/en830/Jersey%20Air%20show%202008/JAS08_0872fp.jpg

    in reply to: The XH558 Discussion Thread (merged) #1206827
    EN830
    Participant

    “EE Lightning” sounds like its from OOOP North, EE by GUM

Viewing 15 posts - 316 through 330 (of 4,978 total)