and a bit of luck and voila.

Did you mean an bit of luck and vodka?

Congratulations Deano. I know from watching our old friend Wysiwyg working his way through the various stages what a very long and very hard slog it is, so I really mean it. Well done, you must be delighted and very proud.

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I can only guess that it might have been the Romanian registered exec 1-11 that was discussed on here a few weeks ago.

http://www.airliners.net/open.file?id=1223764&WxsIERv=Oevgvfu%20Nrebfcnpr%20ONP-111-492TZ%20Bar-Ryrira&Wm=0&WdsYXMg=Hagvgyrq%20%28Zvn%20Nveyvarf%29&QtODMg=Ybaqba%20-%20Tngjvpx%20%28YTJ%20%2F%20RTXX%29&ERDLTkt=HX%20-%20Ratynaq&ktODMp=Whar%206%2C%202007&BP=1&WNEb25u=Greel%20Jnqr&xsIERvdWdsY=LE-ZVN&MgTUQtODMgKE=Nobhg%20gb%20qrcneg%20ba%20EJL08E&YXMgTUQtODMgKERD=439&NEb25uZWxs=2007-06-15%2001%3A48%3A23&ODJ9dvCE=&O89Dcjdg=260&static=yes&width=1024&height=691&sok=JURER%20%20%28nvepensg_trarevp%20%3D%20%27ONP%20111%20Bar-Ryrira%27%20BE%20nvepensg_trarevp%20%3D%20%27Oevgvfu%20Nrebfcnpr%20ONP-111%20Bar-Ryrira%27%20BE%20nvepensg_trarevp%20%3D%20%27Ohpherfgv%20Ebzonp%201-11%20Bar-Ryrira%27%29%20NAQ%20%28ZNGPU%20%28nvepensg%2Cnveyvar%2Ccynpr%2Ccubgb_qngr%2Cpbhagel%2Cerznex%2Ccubgbtencure%2Crznvy%2Clrne%2Cert%2Cnvepensg_trarevp%2Cpa%2Cpbqr%29%20NTNVAFG%20%28%27%2B%22tngjvpx%22%27%20VA%20OBBYRNA%20ZBQR%29%29%20%20BEQRE%20OL%20cubgb_vq%20QRFP&photo_nr=2&prev_id=1230421&next_id=1218195&size=L

Anyone else got any actual facts?

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Some really great stuff there, please keep them coming and coming.

Do you think in years to come we’ll marvel at classics like a BA319 or a VS340? Only time will tell.

My only slight concern when these ‘classic’ threads appear is the number of aircraft they include that I have worked on. The DA727’s are possibles as are the BA 747s. The 3 BCal DC10s in a row are definates. Of course they must have been VERY new in that picture, and VERY old when I flew on them. At least that’s my story.

As I say please keep them coming.

1L.

Is that Scot Do328 missing part of the engine cowling?

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Airlines have to work to the rules laid down by the governing body of the country they are from. Some, eg:BA work just to these rules, others I imagine have their own, sometimes tighter, rules.

In the UK the CAA state that no electronic equipment of any sort may be used during taxi, take-off or landing. In flight certain electronic equipment may be used, generally speaking this would be equipment not capable of transmitting or recieving.

My own feeling is that it is more a case that it’s never been proven that they don’t interfere rather than proven that they do. However I do know a mobile phone can cause interference on radios, in much the same way that they can cause interference with say a stereo speaker. This is something I’ve heard myself when sitting on the flightdeck, and it can be distracting for the pilots at times of heavy workload, particularly when dealing with ATC.

The bottom line is that whether you or I think these rules are unreasonable doesn’t matter. If you break them you are commiting an offence under the ANO.

Just to answer a few specific points:

can you use flightsafe mode while using mobiles on planes

Certainly on BA aircraft you can.

i have clearly heard mobile phones ringing from overhead lockers during flights and the cabin crew seem to ignore them

In my experience crew would NEVER ignore a mobile phone ringing inflight, more likely they didn’t hear it even if you did.

Got the usual “company policy” answer

There is no other answer for her to give, she works to company policy, they work to CAA policy.

wrote to BA Technical Director and Training Manager

You’d have been better writing to the CAA.

the in aircraft mobile phone located between Premium Economy and Business Class is always on receive mode, even during take off, landing and approach.

Such systems are designed specifically for aircraft, furthermore it is in fact switched off completely during taxi, take off and landing.

get the camera out of your bag after the crew have taken their seats

Mark, I thought you knew better 😉

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Emirates comes top in my book for painting the underwing area red with a white logo, pure genius.

If I am honest I have no idea why it should, but that Emirates title on the underside REALLY bugs me.

1L.

I’ve never flown with TOM. I did fly with BY on a 732 in 1983 but that probably doesn’t qualify me to comment on whether TOM are any good. However I do find this point that keeps recurring interesting.

Quoting T5 merely as one example:

As somebody else mentioned, if you get what you pay for, you should be expecting the same service as you’d get on a 5-star airline

When you book a package holiday you buy lots of services, flights included, from one company, but those services are actually provided by lots of different companies, or at least divisions. I think you’d be surprised if you saw the breakdown of how much you pay for what, just how little you actually pay for your flights. Charter flights generally operate with tiny profits from each passenger they fly, sometimes as little as pennies.

I understand that you may be paying thousands for the holiday, but if most of that went on fantastic flights what would be left to pay for all the other things you’d expect of your package? So I’m afraid if it is true that you get what you pay for, you’re not going to get much on your average charter flight.

That said charter, loco or full service, there is no excuse for miserable, disinterested crew!

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