BA’s loss bmi’s gain????
Well yes. But elsewhere I’m sure BA will be picking up pax from cancelled bmi flights. And VS will be picking up BA pax, and bmi VS pax and so on…
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How come BMI are still managing to operate all there flights to ABZ
It is up to each airline which 20% of their operation they cancel. Presumably they chose to cancel other routes.
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ok ill look for another job withg more momney
Just out of curiosity what did you think cabin crew earned?
Don’t forget flight crew have the potential to earn a good wage. Maybe you should concentrate on that.
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Any idea when the SHT’s will be fully up and running 1L?
How long is a piece of string?
It really depends on whether the increased security stays in place, and how well the BAA cope with it. As long as they need a 20% reduction in the operation I imagine domestics will always be prone to cancellation.
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The problem is that the BAA have instructed all airlines operating at LHR to reduce their operations by 20% (it was 30% initially), and to a lesser extent at LGW, while they struggle to cope with the new security restrictions.
As passengers on domestic routes have the option of using surface transport they are a prime candidate for cancellation. All of the domestic routes have been affected. No-one has singled out ABZ. Once the BAA gets its act together, or the restrictions are lifted then I’m sure things will start to get back to normal.
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can someone tell me the average wage for cabin crew on a variety of sircraft and pilot wages
Ok, lets see if I can simplifiy this a little for you 330-200.
First thing to say is that becoming Cabin Crew and becoming Flight Crew are VERY different things. Although not unheard of cabin crew don’t often become flight crew. Two of my best friends have done this, but in neither case did being cabin crew directly lead to them becoming flight crew, both were more a case of shere determination.
Most people becoming cabin crew these days see it as a job rather than a career. The days of potential to earn a decent living have all but gone in the UK and salaries for new entrants have dropped significantly (thanks to the loco’s). Realistically you can expect a starting basic salary of about £9,000. With allowances and commissions, which vary greatly, you can expect to earn upto £12,000. This may sound a lot when you are 14, but realistically purchasing property or supporting a family would not be easy on that, even after promotion or annual pay rises. Cabin crew recruitment is very fickle, with each airline looking for their own set of requirements. Generally a reasonable education and some experience of working with the public together with some natural people skills will do it, along with a good dose of your face fitting at the interview. Unless you are very lucky be prepared for more rejection than acceptance.
I don’t know too much about becoming flight crew or their salaries, but I do know for most pilots flying is very much a vocation and something they would do for nothing if it was the only way to get into the sky. That said the potential to earn is rightly much higher for flight crew and obviously this is one of the attractions to the job. Essentially there are two ways to go. One is to get a good university education and apply for Cadet Pilot Training Sponsorship, although as has already been suggested this is a rapidly disappearing option. This varies from part paid to fully paid, depending on the airline, and requires a contract agreeing to various bonds, guaranteed service or repaying of costs, and generally leads straight to a jet job. The other is Self Improving or Self Funded Training. This doesn’t need any specific qualifications and involves working your way through the various courses and qualifications under your own steam and at your own cost. This is a real hard slog and takes HUGE amounts of self discipline, determination and cash. I have huge respect and admiration for anyone that does it this way. Usually having got your CPL you then start with regional prop flying of some sort before progressing to jet flying.
So what would I suggest to you? Firstly decide what you want to do. There really is no point in a passing comment that you want to be one or the other, you have to know what you want and be determined to get it. Having done that, get the right education and experience for your chosen role, and go for it.
Sorry if that was a bit long-winded. If I can answer any questions for you PM me, and good luck.
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the crew pointed out that they would be handing out menus to anyone who wanted to purchase food or drink, I got mine (obviously) and had a look, can’t remember everything on there but it included full English breakfast, a pizza slice, chocolate muffin, flapjacks and choclate bars plus the usual tea, coffee and alchohol etc.
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Thing is, you have to check laptops
Skymonster, just to go off subject for a second. I can’t speak for bmi or any other airline, but prior to the current security situation BA have allowed you to take your laptop onboard, recognising that its safety and security cannot be guaranteed in the baggage system.
This was true of the previous handluggage policy and remains the case with the new policy introduced earlier this month (before the government restrictions were put in place).
http://www.britishairways.com/travel/bagcabin/public/en_gb
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I love the idea in the first pprune thread that the airline is being run from a furniture shop in Sheffield.
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Neither? I think you will find Aer Lingus still is?
I stand corrected guys, I thought the flotation had already happened for some reason. That makes MO’Ls statement even less accurate then (if only for now).
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the national carrier of Ireland
Biggest maybe, but as neither is government owned, neither can be described as ‘national’.
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Do any of those buildings still exist today?
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Great to see some photos from ‘the other island’.
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I know it’s not as unusual as the silver grey version, but I quite like this white version, even on the 146!
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With a name like Hugh Boyle I sense Glaswegian origins, so wouldn’t be surprised if that’s where his UK loyalties lie.
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