Just had a look through some old paperwork for you Humberside.

Apart from the LGW routes the scheduled routes in the last year were

Heathrow – Inverness

Jersey – Newcastle
Jersey – Leeds Bradford

Manchester – Aberdeen
Manchester – Innsbruck (although I have no recollection of this one at all)
Manchester – Montpellier (or this one)

There were also bases at Manchester, Newcastle and Aberdeen operating charter flights to all the usual european destinations.

1L.

Would an all club product at certain times of day to CDG, FRA and AMS work?

Not in todays climate, but you’re not far off the mark. In the early 90’s when money was no object to airlines or passengers and you couldn’t get a seat in Club on some routes BA did look at removing EuroTraveller (economy) from CDG, BRU, AMS, ATH and SVO and having an all Club cabin.

As MarkL says BA does have a Club/Traveller converter seat on its shorthaul fleet, 5 across in Club, 6 across down the back. The centre seat on the 3 side of Club has never been popular for obvious reasons, so 2 A320s have just been fitted with new seats to trial passenger reaction. They are 4 across in Club, 6 across down the back, and have thinner backs in both cabins so you get more legroom without increasing the seat pitch.

1L.

Good news indeed, but certainly not the end of the difficult times.

Don’t forget that the CEO is only the head of a team, and our leadership team won’t be in too much of a hurry to change what has been working very well for us under Rod Eddington.

I don’t know anyone in the company who won’t cheer at the thought of Waterside being looked at very closely. It is a widely accepted fact that we are a very mangement heavy company, and most of them are there.

As for shorhaul becoming loco, personally I can’t see it, as it goes against everything that the airline stands for. I can see Club coming off some shorthaul routes, as First has from some longhaul routes. CDG, AMS and FRA are not the routes to take it off though. Whilst we don’t routinely see the 150 in Club that we used to have in the 90s, we still have healthy Club loads on these routes most of the time.

As Ryanair and Easyjet get bigger BA are going to find themselves in even bigger trouble

The advent of loco’s has kept BA well and truly on its toes, and made it adapt to a new market, but this has actually benefitted BA in the long-run and todays results hardly suggest that BA are a company in trouble.

By the way I haven’t flown with EI for some time, but I have done so 4 or 5 times and thought they were great.

1L.

I have said it before, and I’ll say it again. An airline wallowing around not knowing where it wants to go, what it wants to be or what it wants to do. I’m amazed it’s lasted this long.

1L.

Have bmi’s last F100s retired now? I think I’m right in saying that the last couple were just doing the LBA – LHR route, but I haven’t seen any at LHR for a while.

1L.

The noise at the back of the F100 cabin is mentioned every time the aircraft comes up on the forum, yet it’s a funny thing I remember it being really quiet when I used to fly on them at Air Europe. Strange how you remember things the way you want to.

We used to use them on charters, especially at night when they weren’t on the scheduled routes. Range was never an issue and pax loved them as they were spacious (in scheduled config). This one is landing in FAO on a charter.

That TUI one looks great, and I hate the TUI colours normally.

1L.

Doesn’t look that much worse than the Hertz logojet!

1L.

Only joking… Don’t jump down my throat!!!

Guys we had this thread when the case first went to tribunal. I will repeat what I told you at the time, as the full facts are as ever not being made clear in the press.

The issue was in fact that BA changed the rules to suit their needs.

The Starmers based their timing to have a family in part on the fact that the rules allowed for her to reduce her working hours to make childcare easier. She made her application for part-time while on maternity leave, which was approved. She later recieved a letter telling her that due to a change of rules her part-time contract would not be honoured. A manager then later admitted that the change was made to discourage the growing numbers of female pilots from applying for part-time contracts.

‘Sexism in the extreme’ was the judges expression. I agree.

1L.