Lindy’s LadYup, rememberthat one. I’ve often wondered if they were available to the general public.
was that the ‘human factors’ one? stressed pilot, late take off, big smoking hole in the ground? I only vaguely remember it. I think it was supposed to be set in Germany…. I THINK…:confused:
dr Fod et al was alot more memorable mainly due to the helpful ladys….
Lindy’s LadI won’t be there, but my parents will be! The joy of giving memberships for Christmas….:D Should have joined up myself…:rolleyes:
Lindy’s Ladim sure there are people out there who know more than i do about airbus systems, i did some work experience with airbus a year or two back, and a senior-ish chap explained that all of the pilots command inputs go through the computer, none of his controls are “Directly” linked to any of the surfaces/ engines. he makes a movement or change in throttle etc and the autopilot computer decides whether or not to allow him to make that manouvre, taking into context altitude, ground speed etc. i seem to remember the incident wher the airbus ended up in the trees, was a glitch in the autopilot program, where it thought the pilot was landing, when he was just doing a low pass, and it wouldn’t allow him to apply full throttle to climb, so in the trees he went 🙁
In that case, the system was new and had no manual override – the aeroplane was in landing configuration and instructed to land, so it did. The pilot applied full throttle and hauled back on the stick, and the computer took a decision that his commands would remove the aeroplane from its flight envelope. Sadly, the computers did not and could not see the trees. It is likely that if he had been in the usual landing position / emergency go around position in relation to the end of the runway, as opposed to his mid-runway touch and go, then the aeroplane would have climbed and been ok. Alturnatively, if he had touched the runway, it would have automatically ended his ‘land’ command and the aircraft could have entered a full power take-off mode. Early software development problems.
I’m pretty sure that the airbus system has a 50ft ground proximity warning which prevents the aircraft rolling sufficiently to hit the ground. Again, the magic computers can’t see obstructions, so that flyby was stupidly dangerous and I would hope that the pilot now flies only FS2004….
I THINK it is possible to bypass the ground proximity switch by pulling a CB…… :confused: The A310’s avionics compartment can be accessed from the cockpit in flight, so no-one would know if they have interferred with the systems…..
The A310 is a BIG aeroplane and would have made a very BIG hole in that airfield.
Madness:mad:
Lindy’s LadAwesome!
By way of an unbiased crit… to improve further try to get the background to draw the eye to the aircraft – I know the backgrounds you use are subtle, but even just making a cloud line point to the aircraft will help. There is a brilliant example in ‘Painting with David Shepard’ which shows how the whole composition draws the eye in a particular direction. I’m self taught too – 5 years of drawing aircraft so far.
Just a thought so don’t take it as nit-picking! You are doing in charcoal what I like to do in oils – an aircraft portrait. In my view, most aviation artists try to either tell a story with the composition, or favour ‘action’ shots. Personally, I find that the photos of aircraft published during the war by Charles E Brown are absolutely inspirational…..
http://www.aeroplaneart.com.au/Images/JSJ_PC_Supermarine_Spitfire_3.jpg
Lindy’s LadI would just like to say thanks to Lindys Lad and Co for the updates and insight over the past few weeks, its great to see/hear what can be done with lots of enthusiasm, time and very little cash. We all see the results of the big players ie Duxford, Cosford and Hendon and their million pound palaces but its this sort of grass roots stuff we really need to harness. I have promised myself a trip to the museum when I`m next visiting relatives in Chester Le Street as its always been on my list of things to see when I`m there but never done.
I’m there every sunday – come find me and I’ll give you the tour!
John.
Lindy’s LadI asked him about 3 months ago, and he still had them.
Lindy’s LadAccording to TVOC’s website forum (passed from the jockeys themselves) the plan is to display the aircraft in a similar manner – howling and steep climbs followed by a wing over. http://www.tvoc.co.uk
Lindy’s LadNow that Jeeps and Jets is over, we can concentrate on getting the museum site looking good – new displays, etc. First on the list are:
New entrance sign
New fence directing guests into the entrance building
Bofors gun emplacement
Possibly a pair of small guard towers and sentry boxes
Possibly a small (10 or 20 square foot) signal square
The list goes on.
Negotiations are underway for paint for a couple of aircraft
The Lightning is progressing merrily
The Whirlwind is once again receiving attention (now that the bofors is complete)
The F86D is having its nose art applied and polished to a mirror-like sheen
My updates will be less frequent now, since I have a permanent job – gone are the days of contracting on modern rubbish! All I can say is that I’ve found out the condition of NEAM’s Chipmunk fuselage in my workshop at Newcastle College….:D Thanks for reading this thread over the last couple of months – I will keep posting, but it will be down to once a week… Watch this space….:cool:
Lindy’s LadJoin the guild!
This is an old one of mine. Compare your huge talent (careful!) against my pitiful offering. JOIN THE GUILD!!!!!!:cool:
Lindy’s LadGava.org has some wonderfull work on their site. I can waste hours drooling on the pieces there. Unfortunately for me, my work isn’t considered art:(
It is art (unless thats a screen shot from a flight sim…….) The guild simply follow the trend of using traditional techniques (although they are becoming braver by encompassing ‘modern art’ into the portfolio. See ‘Adventures in Aviation Art’ link on the website). There is a web site (can’t remember what it is though where alot of the artwork is computer generated. Ask the guys who regularly post profile pics.
Lindy’s LadJoin the Guild of aviation Artists (I’m a friend of the guild and they help!). They provide so much advice and help to anyone with an ounce of talent providing your artwork is a hand applied medium (paint, pencil, charcoal, etc) and not computer generated or airbrushed, then you will fit right in. Michael Turner is the Guild presient, and what he doesn’t know about drawing aircraft isn’t worth mentioning. Plus you will be able to meet and draw on the talents of the likes of Ron Wong, Gerald Coulson, Simon Milan, and many many others.
Have a look at the website:
You have a talent which is far in excess of my own (see my avatar), and unless your work gets noticed, you’ll just be another wasted talent!
Lindy’s Lad[QUOTE=David Burke;1162652]AS soon as you damage the protective oxidisation that Alclad provides you have an airframe that is effectively corroding away in front of your eyes. The
basis of painting airframes is a direct acknowledgement of the properties of aluminium and the effects that mixing it with other materials can have.
QUOTE]
Yes and no…. All materials will degrade over time, so what you are saying here is true. (David, I know and envy your track record and knowledge of aircraft preservation, so please on’t think I’m picking faults)…However, you cannot simply protect metal of any kind permanently… Aluminium will oxidise without the original alclad coating but only on the upper grain surafce, and will form its own ‘protective’ layer. Again, I agree that over a long period of time, it will deteriorate further. Of course, that only applies on aluminium which is not in contact with other metal types. Dissimilar metal corrosion will continue to spread until one of the metals has erroded away. In short, the Hali as it is could last permanently so long as it is MAINTAINED, which apparently it is Providing the effects of the many forms of corrosion are treated as soon as they appear. They cannot be prevented completely. Even a fully restored, ‘brand new’ aeroplane is actually corroding, since the corrosion process starts as soon as the metal is out of the furnace at the foundry….:eek:
Maintenence and corrosion treatment is the key. IMHO…..
Lindy’s LadModern airliners for me. I genuinely can’t tell a Boeing from an Airbus.
Moggy
For the best clues, look at the shape of the cockpit side windows……
I work on the things and struggle to differentiate at times….
My boring aircraft? Shorts 330. Box-like, slow, and completely un-inspiring. Awful:mad:
Lindy’s LadWithout getting into the ‘is a restored aircraft really the same aircraft?’ debate, an aircraft museum to me has two key roles:
1: Sympathetically restore / preserve aircraft engineering history. We restore aircraft and artifact for (in most cases) a hobby. This allows ‘mere mortals’ to get to know how complex flying machines are put together and the different approaches to problems by different manufacturers. Many civillian aircraft engineers have started as a volunteer at a museum……
2: Educate the public about our history. This could take the form of exciting and informative displays, or simply setting the mood. Examples already fielded on this thread have been the Hurricane wreck at Hendon which clearly demonstrates that pilots and aircraft have been, and continue to be lost in combat, and staying at Hendon – any one of the immaculate airframes showing the artifact in the best possible condition. Education from an engineering point of view is taken care of by sectioning engines or even aircraft. Interactivity with the history is one of the key elements beginning to emerge now. The public don’t want to see rows of aeroplanes in a hangar – they want to touch them and feel the emotion connected to them.
As an enthusiast and restorer (and aero engineer), I would take pride in seeing an aircraft I had restored placed in such a way that hundreds of people could look at it and see what I had done “cor mister, what fabulous rivetting you have done” – a master of engineering, a god of restoration….:cool:
Sadly, (apart from being neither of those things) the public don’t give a monkey’s what I’ve done, so we have to provide them with what THEY want, not just US. I wish I could be selfish and say what I want to see, but I guarantee it would be different to what YOU want to see…… A MUSEUM has to be a compromise between the un-educated masses who have just come to keep the kids happy, and the enthusiast who complains at using the wrong spec of rivet….
Just my own ramblings……. from a purely static point of view. Flying displays and flying collections have their own draws, namely in sight, smell and feeling the sheer power of these machines…. I can’t comment really, but it is the second biggest spectator draw immediately after football…..
Lindy’s LadThose lights were a proper job fit at when they were converted, my guess is something like a Harley light or landing light. They had proper fairings for them, but I dont think every aircraft had them.
We have the fairings fitted, but the lights are long gone, leaving only the mounting bracket. I had heard that Bedford truck headlights (sealed beam unit) were used as a one-off trial installation. :confused: I’m releaved that you believe them to be something sensible like Harley lights…!
If we are going to spend alot of time and money brining our TT18 back from the brink, we need to get it right first time. Detail is important. Aside from corrosion removal, some of the jobs include:
sealing the rear crew escape hatch
fitting fillet panels between wing and fuse
re-skin the wooden section of the fin
repair the role-specific kit (lights, pods, etc)….
Obviously the airframe repairs will come first…..:rolleyes:
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