Yes, I think if someone wants to try and sell a Whitley seat for almost £2500 they should at least bother to confirm that’s what it is. It’s definitely not Whitley and I too would say airspeed oxford.

Anyone know what the aircrew in the Whitley photo are wearing? Some sort of jerkin, not a harness suit, not a para suit, so what is it?

There’s a pill box at Biggin Hill that is fairly remote. It still has machine gun mounts by each “window”, concrete blocks used to block the windows and the steel door is lying nearby.

The ‘why’ has been found – the pilot put the aircraft into a manouver which didn’t allow for room for it to recover.

That’s a what not a why.

We don’t know and probably never will why he did that.

By 2117 will that many people really care? There seem to be far fewer people among the younger generations interested in aeroplanes than when I was young, and I don’t see that situation improving. Go to an airshow and look around. Most of the camera wielding enthusiasts you see will be 50 plus.

It’s our own fault. As a movement we don’t go out and draw attention to ourselves. Look at the struggle Alf Tuppper had to secure only two cockpits, expenses paid, out of all those that exist for the event at Damyns Hall. Something like 20,000 people would have seen some aviation heritage and some could well have gone on to air shows and maybe volnteered at a museum or at a collection.

I know it was a fraud but the Wasp that travelled round Supermarkets was a classic example of what we shoul be doing, I saw it in Crawley Tesco car park and it was attracting a lot of people who wouldn’t have had any other exposure to aviation heritage.

You see lots of young people around other types of historic transport, I’m convinced that our issues are self inflicted.

Then there’s this

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m_W3Au9wB94

Good question AMB.

Surely someone within the RAF Museums staff and on this forum can enlighten us as to its present state and condition. After all are we not all part owners as taxpayers.

Might be wrong but I don’t think the RAF Museum has any funding from Tax revenue.

Well now it’s been advertised worldwide I expect some pretty tough bidding

Both of the noses are buy it now so no bidding, much too pricey though. Some of the panels are also way too high and anyone who buys a temperature gauge for £100 needs their bumps felt

Found this gem of a video on You Tube: –

Of course, and event like this would never happen now, given it was in/close to a large built up area, but it at least it shows it could be done then!

I was at that show, having just spent all night on the phones at the first telethon.

It was very close to some flats and my abiding memory is of take offs and landings being temporarily stopped by a woman pushing her child in a buggy across the runway. The runway was well fenced off, she must have pulled it down at the point where she crossed. Then again, it was Croydon so I wasn’t surprised.

That aside, it was a lovely show, wish there were more like it. The CAA fees alone would stop it happening now.

As a point of interest, at least some of the accelerator strips are still there.