and dosn’t she look nice for a ship that will probably be scrap in a few months,along with her sisters on the trots at Fareham.

Pointless and unnecessary Moggy. This is raking over the ashes of the dead and I consider it unseemly. Therefore I object to it and will take no further part in it. I hope it is locked or removed.

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Glorified and sanctified be God’s great name throughout the world which He has created according to His will. May He establish His kingdom in your lifetime and during your days, and within the life of the entire House of Israel, speedily and soon; and say, Amen.

May His great name be blessed forever and to all eternity.

Blessed and praised, glorified and exalted, extolled and honored, adored and lauded be the name of the Holy One, blessed be He, beyond all the blessings and hymns, praises and consolations that are ever spoken in the world; and say, Amen.

May there be abundant peace from heaven, and life, for us

and for all Israel; and say, Amen.

He who creates peace in His celestial heights, may He create peace for us and for all Israel; and say, Amen

Kaddish (Prayer for the dead)

Carefull you don’t upset the Leek eaters

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Sorry, I don’t understand your point. What have those things to do with the items listed previously?

My point is people get sniffy about the tabloids but are not above reading them and quoting them on aircraft matters,such as the name of a pilot who had just died before it was released officially yet will decry them for a story on other matters.

Without Newspapers there probably be no spark of interest in Vulcan to the sky or the Dornier in the channel(and certainly less funds)

Certainly there is the sensational element but without it there would be no readership and no newspapers.

” public’s insatiable desire ” So we are above that with the need to know the in’s and outs of the latest fatal air crash,who’se to blame buried aircraft and the like?(I wont bother you with the rest of the list)

Thankyou Moggy:)

Fortunately being retired fuel consumption is not an issue. My Lexus Soarer 4ltr V8 does 13mpg in complete silence and extreme comfort(which is very important to my due to disability). I did 685 miles in it last year. Road tax is £250(pre 2000) and my insurance is £265.Where I win is depreciation will be nil. I paid £1000 for it as I think the fuel consumption plays a big part in this as it dropped to this figure from just shy of £50,000 since 1997. Nice Mr Toyota also galvanised the whole body shell so I am not expecting it to rust out and it has only 94k on the clock.

A question though.
If the majority of people who drive a lot go green with hybreds and electric cars and pay little or no road tax and buy less fuel, how is the government going to bleed the motorist, road pricing maybe?