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  • in reply to: Idiot question #2072188
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    2005_S1401_01
    HMAS Arunta installed with trial version of CEA phased array radar

    (Date taken: 09 September 2005)

    http://www.defence.gov.au/media/download/2005/sep/20050909a.cfm

    2005? the trial is already 3 years old?????:confused:

    in reply to: DDG-1000…canceled? #2074819
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    confirmation, only 2 DDG-1000 will be built!

    Senator Collins’ Reaction to Navy Cancellation of DDG-1000 Program

    (Source: Senator Sue Collins (Maine); dated July 22, 2008)

    The Secretary of the Navy today informed members of the Senate and House of its plans to cancel the DDG-1000 program after completion of the first two ships, one of which is scheduled to be completed at Bath Iron Works.

    Senator Collins, who is a Member of the Senate Armed Services Committee, worked successfully to include in the Senate version of the Defense Authorization bill the $2.6 billion the Navy had requested to build a third DDG-1000, which also was scheduled to be built at Bath Iron Works. The House version of the authorization does not include any funding for the DDG-1000 program or for Bath Iron Works.

    Senator Collins released this statement:

    “The Navy’s decision to curtail the DDG-1000 program is a blow to Bath Iron Works. It was triggered by the decision of the House Armed Services Committee to eliminate funding for the DDG-1000 program, which prompted a review within the Department of Defense on the future of the new destroyer program. Unfortunately, Maine currently has no member on the House Armed Services Committee to advocate for programs critical to BIW’s workforce.

    “The Navy is likely to propose continuing the DDG-51 program but at inadequate production levels. Compared to the DDG-51 program, the DDG-1000 program provides far more work and about three times the amount of money for BIW per ship. Bath’s share of the DDG-1000 it now has under contract is $1.4 billion, while the shipyard’s share of the most recent DDG-51 it now has under construction amounts to only about $500 million.

    “I have spoken with Deputy Secretary of Defense Gordon England who committed to working with me to mitigate the impact on Bath Iron Works’ workforce of the termination of the DDG-1000 program. In addition, I will meet tomorrow with Chief of Naval Operations Admiral Gary Roughead and Navy Secretary Donald Winter to discuss ways to lessen the impact of the decision on BIW.” (ends)

    Skelton and Taylor Applaud Navy Decision to Modify Shipbuilding Plan

    (Source: House Armed Services Committee; issued July 23, 2008)

    WASHINGTON, D.C. — Chairman Ike Skelton (D-MO) and Seapower and Expeditionary Forces Subcommittee Chairman Gene Taylor (D-MS) made the following statements on the Navy’s decision to modify its shipbuilding plan with respect to surface combatants.

    “I am pleased with the Navy’s decision to focus its resources on the DDG 51 destroyer, with its known costs and capabilities, rather than the increasingly expensive DDG 1000,” said Chairman Ike Skelton (D-MO). “Our committee recommended this action in the fiscal year 2009 Defense Authorization Act, and I am pleased to see the Navy heed our advice. It is a responsible decision that will benefit both the Navy and the taxpayer for years to come.”

    “I believe this is the right thing for the men and women of our Navy and the citizens who pay for these ships,” Subcommittee Chairman Gene Taylor (D-MS) commented. “The DDG 51 class destroyer is the premier destroyer in the world today. The ship has tremendous flexibility in a variety of warfighting missions, including the ability to serve as a ballistic missile defense platform. Just as important, the costs of these ships are well known. The Navy has built 62 of these superb vessels and our shipyards know how to build them on budget and on schedule.

    Taylor continued, “The two DDG 1000s that our nation will build will be extremely capable ships. However, virtually every independent organization with expertise in ship cost analysis has predicted the first two ships will cost up to $5 billion each, or more than $1.5 billion more than the Navy has budgeted. Such cost overruns would cripple the Navy’s plan to reach a 313-ship fleet.

    “I believe that our Navy and our nation are better served by building a large number of DDG 51s and then proceeding with a timely and orderly plan to begin construction of the next generation of nuclear powered cruisers. I look forward to working with Admiral Roughead and Secretary Winter during the return to DDG 51 production,” concluded Taylor.

    -ends-

    http://www.defense-aerospace.com

    in reply to: DDG-1000…canceled? #2074835
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    from REUTERS

    UPDATE 1-US Navy explains plan to scrap DDG-1000 destroyer
    Thu Jul 24, 2008 12:19am BST
    (Adds statements from Navy, lawmakers and industry executives)

    By Andrea Shalal-Esa

    WASHINGTON, July 23 (Reuters) – A U.S. Navy decision to scrap the DDG-1000 destroyer program after just two ships could have “potentially devastating consequences” said Sen. Susan Collins, a Maine Republican whose state includes General Dynamics Corp’s (GD.N: Quote, Profile, Research) Bath Iron Works shipyard.

    U.S. Navy Secretary Donald Winter and Chief of Naval Operations Adm. Gary Roughead spent hours with lawmakers on Wednesday explaining their decision.

    Collins said Deputy Defense Secretary Gordon England had promised to work with her to “mitigate the impact on Bath Iron Works’ work force of the termination of the DDG-1000 program.”

    Bath Iron Works is building one of the new destroyers, Northrop Grumman Corp (NOC.N: Quote, Profile, Research) is building the other at its Ingalls shipyard in Pascagoula, Mississippi.

    Defense analyst Loren Thompson of the Lexington Institute said the net effect on Northrop and General Dynamics would be minimal since they would likely get more work building older model DDG-51 destroyers.

    Lockheed Martin Corp (LMT.N: Quote, Profile, Research), which builds the Aegis combat system used on the DDG-51 ships, but had lost the contract for the combat system on the DDG-1000 to Raytheon Co (RTN.N: Quote, Profile, Research), would also benefit, Thompson said.

    The Navy has spent almost $10 billion to develop the new stealthy warship over the past 15 years and was due to spend another $19 billion in coming years, according to the Pentagon’s latest acquisition report to Congress.

    Government watchdog agencies and critics in Congress argue the cost of each DDG-1000 destroyer have already soared and could reach $5 billion apiece — a price so high the Navy would have trouble reaching its goal of a 313-ship fleet.

    Thompson said the Navy was “flailing about trying to define its requirement for warships,” but had clearly decided it did not need as many of the new destroyers, which were designed to attack targets on land up to 100 miles away. “Without a major threat to organize our priorities, we’re not very good at defining what we’ll need in the future,” Thompson said.

    Collins said Winter called her late on Tuesday to give her the news after a high-level meeting at the Pentagon.

    Winter made the call after meeting with England and chief Pentagon arms buyer John Young, according to sources familiar with the decision.

    Collins said the Navy’s decision was prompted by the House Armed Services Committee’s decision to eliminate funding for the DDG-1000 program in its latest defense spending bill. The Senate version of the defense authorization bill included $2.6 billion for the program for fiscal 2009, which begins Oct. 1.

    House Armed Services Committee Chairman Ike Skelton, a Missouri Democrat, and Rep. Gene Taylor, a Mississippi Democrat and head of the sea power subcommittee, issued a statement welcoming the Navy’s decision as good for taxpayers.

    Taylor said the DDG-51 could be used for many different missions, including missile defense, and the shipyards already “know how to build them on budget and on schedule.”

    His subcommittee scheduled a hearing on the issue on July 31.

    The Navy may face termination fees for the program, since it is being canceled “for convenience” rather than cost, said one source briefed on the issue. The scope was not yet clear.

    Navy spokesman Lt. Clay Doss declined comment on internal budget briefings, but confirmed that Winter and Roughead met lawmakers on Wednesday.

    Industry executives said the Navy was still working out plans to produce more Arleigh Burke-class DDG-51 destroyers, also built by General Dynamics and Northrop, instead.

    That could help offset the lost revenue from the DDG-1000 ships, but much would depend on the rate at which the Navy decided to purchase the older model destroyers, they said.

    In a statement, Collins said the Navy was considering buying nine more of the older style destroyers, but the DDG- 1000 program provided more work and about three times the amount of money for Bath Iron Works on each ship than than the older model DDG-51s.

    “It’s a very dynamic situation,” said Randy Belote, spokesman for Northrop, adding the company would “support the Navy” whatever it decided.

    General Dynamics spokesman Kendell Pease said it would be inappropriate to comment since his company had not been informed of any decision. (Reporting by Andrea Shalal-Esa; Editing by Tim Dobbyn and Andre Grenon)

    http://uk.reuters.com/articlePrint?articleId=UKN2332179620080723

    in reply to: Navy News from Around the World II #2075137
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    Non-Subscriber Extract
    Portuguese Type 209PN is quick off the mark with harbour trials
    By Michael Nitz
    17 July 2008

    The first of two Type 209PN submarines for the Portuguese Navy was named and launched at ThysssenKrupp Marine Systems’ Howaldtswerke-Deutsche Werft shipyard (HDW) in Kiel, Germany, on 15 July.

    Tridente began harbour trials immediately following the ceremony and the 68 m-long boat is due to commence sea trials early in 2009, with delivery to the customer by the end of that year.

    A procurement contract for Tridente and sistership Arpao – worth around EUR800 million (USD958 million), including offset agreements – was signed by the Portuguese government and the German Submarine Consortium (consisting of HDW, Nordseewerke and trading house MAN Ferrostaal) in April 2004.

    Construction of Arpao is running to schedule, according to HDW, and is expected to start sea trials in early 2010, with delivery later that year. The two units will form the 5th Submarine Squadron based in Lisbon.

    The boats will replace three ageing Albacora-class submarines built for Portugal in the 1960s, only one of which – NRP Barracuda – remains in service. It is due to decommission in December 2009, leaving the country temporarily without an underwater capability.

    182 of 483 words
    © 2008 Jane’s Information Group

    http://www.janes.com/news/defence/jni/jni080717_1_n.shtml

    in reply to: Navy News from Around the World II #2075153
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    2008-07-15
    Launching of the first Class 209PN Submarine for the Portuguese Navy in Kiel

    Hamburg/Kiel, 15.07.2008 On 15th July 2008, the first of two Class 209PN submarines for the Portuguese Navy was launched at Howaldtswerke-Deutsche Werft – a company of ThyssenKrupp Marine Systems – in Kiel. The submarine was named N.R.P. TRIDENTE by Dr. Alda Taborda, wife of the President of the Portuguese Parliament Dr. Jaima Gama.

    The new submarine has a combined diesel-electric and fuel cell propulsion system. Equipped with ultra-modern sensors and an integrated Command and Weapon Control System, it is optimally suited to its future reconnaissance and surveillance tasks.
    The contract for the two submarines was signed in 2004 between the Portuguese State and the German Submarine Consortium (GSC).
    General Data:
    Length overall approx. 68 m
    Height approx. 13 m
    Displacement approx. 1,850 t
    Complement 32

    http://i43.servimg.com/u/f43/12/53/24/68/triden10.jpg

    http://www.hdw.de/index_en.php?level=1&CatID=7&inhalt_id=7&press=407&do=showPressDetail

    in reply to: Navy News from Around the World II #2075330
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    New Portuguese Sub sees daylight

    NRP Tridente(S-167) , to be comissioned in 2010

    http://media.shipspotting.com/uploads/thumbs/Ship+Photo+NRP+TRIDENTE+%28S+167%29/679502_800.jpg
    HDW TKMS Synchrolift 2008/07/07
    New Class Type U-209PN (in reality they are 214) to be delivered to portugese navy in 2009/2010 + sister NRP ARPAO (S168)
    improved side view

    http://www.shipspotting.com/modules/myalbum/photo.php?lid=679502

    in reply to: Navy News from Around the World II #2075361
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    HMAS Waller’s Capability Upgrades Set for Operational Trials

    (Source: Australian Department of Defence; issued July 8, 2008)

    The Royal Australian Navy is set to benefit from HMAS Waller being the first Collins-class submarine to be fitted with the new Replacement Combat System and Heavyweight Torpedo, the Minister for Defence, the Hon. Joel Fitzgibbon MP, said today.

    The Replacement Combat System and Heavyweight Torpedo capabilities were provided under Projects SEA1439 Phase 4 and SEA1429, and with Initial Operational Release (IOR) now approved, HMAS Waller may commence a period of Naval Operational Test and Evaluation where those capabilities will be fully tested in an operational environment.

    “These significant capability upgrades were recently approved for IOR by the Royal Australian Navy and assessed as safe and suitable for operational trials,” Mr Fitzgibbon said.

    The Minister recently visited HMAS Waller in Hawaii, where its Operational Test and Evaluation activities have included participation in the Rim of the Pacific 2008 (RIMPAC 08) exercise. This exercise is currently being conducted off Hawaii and includes the participation of the United States and eight other Pacific Rim forces.

    HMAS Waller represents an important milestone in realising the full capability of the Collins Class submarine and reflects the significant efforts of the prime contractor ASC, the Defence Materiel Organisation, Capability Development Group, the Defence Science and Technology Organisation and the Navy including HMAS Waller’s crew.

    “The outcome also represents successful engagement with the US Navy and Australian industry and establishes an ongoing framework for the continued development of these capabilities,” Mr Fitzgibbon said.

    “The two projects represent an investment by the Australian Government of approximately $890m and to have both of these complex projects progressing well is a noteworthy achievement,” Mr Fitzgibbon said.

    Installation of these capabilities in further submarines is ongoing and is linked to their docking availabilities.

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    in reply to: Navy News from Around the World II #2075643
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    Pakistan eyes US frigate as Congress debates transfer bill

    Pakistan will acquire an Oliver Hazard Perry-class frigate if US legislators approve a bill allowing retired US Navy (USN) vessels to be transferred to overseas recipients. Greece, Chile and Peru are also set to receive ex-USN ships under the Naval Vessels Transfer Act 2008, which is currently going through Congress

    http://jni.janes.com/public/jni/index.shtml

    from Brazilian’s

    NOTICIARIONAVAL

    S 3052 IS

    110th CONGRESS

    2d Session

    S. 3052

    To provide for the transfer of naval vessels to certain foreign
    recipients.

    IN THE SENATE OF THE UNITED STATES

    May 22, 2008

    BILL

    To provide for the transfer of naval vessels to certain foreign
    recipients.

    Be it enacted by the Senate and House of Representatives of the
    United States of America in Congress assembled,

    SECTION 1. SHORT TITLE.

    This Act may be cited as the `Naval Vessel Transfer Act of
    2008′.

    SEC. 2. TRANSFER OF NAVAL VESSELS TO CERTAIN FOREIGN RECIPIENTS.

    (a) Transfers by Grant- The President is authorized to transfer
    vessels to foreign recipients on a grant basis under section 516 of
    the Foreign Assistance Act of 1961 (22 U.S.C. 2321j), as follows:

    (1) PAKISTAN- To the Government of Pakistan, the OLIVER
    HAZARD PERRY class guided missile frigate MCINERNEY (FFG-8).

    (2) GREECE- To the Government of Greece, the OSPREY class
    minehunter coastal ships OSPREY (MHC-51) and ROBIN (MHC-54).

    (3) CHILE- To the Government of Chile, the KAISER class
    oiler ANDREW J. HIGGINS (AO-190).

    (4) PERU- To the Government of Peru, the NEWPORT class
    amphibious tank landing ships FRESNO (LST-1182) and RACINE (LST-1191).

    (b) Grants Not Counted in Annual Total of Transferred Excess
    Defense Articles- The value of a vessel transferred to a recipient on
    a grant basis pursuant to authority provided by subsection (a) shall
    not be counted against the aggregate value of excess defense articles
    transferred in any fiscal year under section 516 of the Foreign
    Assistance Act of 1961 (22 U.S.C. 2321j).

    (c) Costs of Transfers- Any expense incurred by the United
    States in connection with a transfer authorized by this section shall
    be charged to the recipient (notwithstanding section 516(e) of the
    Foreign Assistance Act of 1961 (22 U.S.C. 2321j(e))).

    (d) Repair and Refurbishment in United States Shipyards- To the
    maximum extent practicable, the President shall require, as a
    condition of the transfer of a vessel under this section, that the
    recipient to which the vessel is transferred have such repair or
    refurbishment of the vessel as is needed, before the vessel joins the
    naval forces of the recipient, performed at a shipyard located in the
    United States, including a United States Navy shipyard.

    (e) Expiration of Authority- The authority to transfer a vessel
    under this section shall expire at the end of the 2-year period
    beginning on the date of the enactment of this Act.

    in reply to: Karel Doorman Frigates to Portugal? #2075930
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    from the great masters of ship-drawing :cool::)

    http://i90.photobucket.com/albums/k279/shipbucket/PorFFDoorman_BARTOLOMEUDIAS1.gif

    (just a remark, the pennant should be moved a little to the back, more or less aligned with the 76mm gun) 😉

    like here>>>
    http://i43.servimg.com/u/f43/12/53/24/68/dsc07210.jpg

    in reply to: T-45 reduced to 6 uints (?) #2076105
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    http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/hampshire/7464085.stm

    Government cancels two warships

    The Royal Navy does not have “unlimited resources”
    The government has cancelled plans to build an extra two Type 45 Destroyers for the Royal Navy.

    Armed Forces Minister Bob Ainsworth told the Commons it would not be taking up the option to build the seventh and eighth warships.

    Already, six high-tech £600m Type 45s have been ordered and will be based in Portsmouth, Hampshire.

    Mr Ainsworth said there were not “unlimited resources” for the Navy but the fleet had “sufficient capability”.

    A spokesman for Portsmouth-based VT Group, which builds the bows, funnels and masts for the ships, said it was not surprised and had not budgeted for the order – therefore the decision would have no impact on jobs.

    Mr Ainsworth, opening a Commons debate on defence, said: “The reality is we do not have unlimited resources. The six destroyers already on contract will provide a formidable capability

    Armed Forces Minister
    Bob Ainsworth MP

    “We have to prioritise between a range of competing requirements, focusing on the balance between current operations and future capability.

    “That is why I can confirm that we have taken a decision not to take the option to order the seventh and eighth Type 45 destroyers.

    “The six destroyers already on contract will provide a formidable capability.”

    The ships are assembled at BAE Systems shipyard on the Clyde in Scotland.

    The first of the Type 45s, HMS Daring, is due to go into service next year.

    Mr Ainsworth added that work on new vessels to replace the Type 22 and 23 frigates would, also be accelerated.

    in reply to: Navy News from Around the World II #2076196
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    French Navy reduced to 18 frigates in 2020

    following the downsize in the French Armed Forces announced by Sarkozy , by 2020 the Marine Nationale will have the following Frigates :

    -2 Horizon
    -11 FREMM*
    -5 LaFayette

    *=8 already ordered, 6 for ASW + 2 for AAW

    article(in french)
    http://www.meretmarine.com/article.cfm?id=107929

    in reply to: Karel Doorman Frigates to Portugal? #2076209
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    Oooh, are they going to stuff a French 100mm gun in there? That’ll be different, it will look funky on these ships. But, if they replace the main gun – presumably for logistical reasons – why keep the goalkeeper?

    no, no , no!!!

    Maybe i did not explain myself….the gun mounted on board will be replaced by an IDENTICAL Oto-Melara 76 mm
    (that is being maintained now)

    The one on board is still the original from the Van Nes that will afterwards go for maintenance

    We will keep the 76 mm , no plans for creuseot-loire

    😉

    in reply to: Return of the Gorshkov saga #2076211
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    India is already building a new national carrier, the IAC, with the help Italian Fincantieri.
    IAC is smaller respect of CVF design

    did the construction ACTUALLY already started??????

    in reply to: Karel Doorman Frigates to Portugal? #2076536
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    Two remarks:
    1- No flight deck modification like the M’s going to Belgium (for larger NH90)
    2- Apparently no radars on the Goalkeeper and main mast > not ready to go to Portugal (?) or getting something different?

    Hi Wanshan

    Long time no “see” 😉

    about your points:
    1- You are right, both portuguese Ms will not have the modified flight deck because we will keep using the LYNX (no NH-90 for PN ) 🙁

    2 – The parts you mention are under maintenance, same procedure as used on the Belgian F-930 when she left drydock (see pic posted several posts before)
    As far as I know it’s the usual procedure before hand-over to foreign navies, now the equipment will be re-mounted as it gets fully revised 😉

    (for example the 76mm gun is not the definitive, will be replaced still, so it was not even painted in “PN grey”, it is still on Dutch Navy grey)

    The official handover cerimony is scheduled for 21th November

    Cheers!

    in reply to: Navy News from Around the World II #2076543
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    I found this drawing of the Future HMAS Hobarth AWD

    http://www.revistanaval.com/imaxes/20080604-f105-hobart-02.jpg

    Can anyone tell me if is there any special reason why the stern of the ship is so “low” right at the end, not like in the spanish F-100s?

    Thx

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