Argentina is set to take delivery of 10 Grob G-120TPs to replace existing Mentors and PA-28s in primary training role as well as EMB-312 Tucanos.

The Tucanos would be transferred to airspace control duties for North of country.

http://www.laahs.com/content/38-Grob-120TP-for-the-Argentine-Air-Force

Not exactly glamorous fighters, but rather a realistic and sensible program designed to maintain key functions (i.e. training and airspace control).

How many EA-6Bs or EA-18s have been shot down by MANPADS?

As for jamming, my knowledge on radars is limited.

What part of 30+ years of development in electronics did you miss?

An Iranian MIM-23 Hawk delivered in 1970s is still 1970s technology.

An Israeli F-15 or F-16 is generally upgraded to 2010’s technology.

Oh and Israeli 1970s tech F-15 and F-16s (as well as F-4/A-4/Kfir) smashed the Syrian AD network with relative ease in 1982.

How can anyone take you seriously when you’re comparing 1970s technology with 2010s tech or that any US no fly zone won’t involve assets such as EA-18Gs?

Oh and in your mind I take it Bangladeshi F-7BGI are far more advanced than USAF F-16s or F/A-18s delivered in 1980s and 1990s because they were delivered in 2013? :p

First A400M to be delivered to Armee de l’ Air on 12 July 2013

um no they aren’t, they been shot down over Iraq in 1991

And how many have been heavily damaged and returned?

And why the assumption of CAS anyway?

If US enforces No-Fly Zones as per literal interpretation of the definition, it’s high flying and out of MANPADS reached.

Any idiot who decides to switch on his AD radar gets a HARM for his trouble.

They can’t do this to Iran which would be pouring air defense troops into Syria via Shi’ite Iraq.

Iranian AD is in even more of dire straights than Syrias, as it’s had no major upgrading since 1979. All of their mainstay systems are thoroughly obsolete (MIM-23, SA-5, Crotale based Chinese knockoffs).

It’s cutting edge is literally a handful of SA-22 and Tor’s which I doubt they would deploy to Syria – they are after all interested in defending their own country too.

So Iran gets involved, it’ll lose it’s air force and it’s AD network and probably suffer a big delay to it’s nuclear program.

I doubt the US would use just those items listed. The F-16s are fully SEAD capable so bye-bye to any obsolete Iranian system that decides to open up.

As for MANPADS, so far they’ve not proven a threat to high flying jets.

As for the other systems, MIM-23 Hawk, Rapier and Crotale as operated by Iran is obsolete and in any case fully understood by Americans.

The Iranians didn’t have great joy with these systems stopping Iraqi jets, so why would stop highly advanced Americans who designed the MIM-23 or have access to intel to others from British and French Allies?

Only real unknown is Buk M2.

Oh and all those systems are not stopping Israelis flying in and out and bombing at will. And they’re certainly using F-15 and F-16s.

Also why on earth would you use AH-64s for No Fly Zone enforcement?

I think there’d be a few EA-18G, EA-6B and F-15s there as well, with EC-130H Compass Call aircraft operating in the shadows, ready to jam radars and communications systems.

US are well versed in these kind of operations, whereas the Syrians and Iranians are not and the Syrians have generally proven useless.