Damn! I’ll bet the pax seated in the right-side window seats were holding their breath!
From all that has been written this photo apparently may not be ‘touched up’.
However my point was that this almost vertical shot of the departing ‘heavy’ seems to show a climb out of more than 45 degrees which is obviously impossible and must be some quirk of camera or light. My immediate reaction to seeing it was: “No way!”.
I wish that Sam was on this board to enlighten us.
Rolls Royce used to have a Griffon (?) powered Spitfire in a hanger at EMA. Do they still own it?
If they do, that would be taking part in the flypast I am sure.
OK you history buffs:
Is it true that the cockpit section of the Caravelle was based on that of the Comet? Or is it just one of those old stories?
OK, now I am totally confused……
My understanding is that:
V1 is a go/no go call (point of little, or no return). This would be followed by a ‘Rotation’ call and then a V2 (Blue line – Minimum assymetric control speed) call. On a long runway in favourable conditions the V1/Rotate call would be simultaneous whereas MTOW in hot-and-high conditions might result in quite a long period between them.
Secondly: Why wasn’t the power already set at TOGA? Did they attempt to abort and then change their minds? Or did the on-board systems apply a less than adequate power setting? :confused:
Many years ago a friend used to fly BMA 707’s on wet leases in Africa. He alway used to have to factor in a 200 Knot (?) maximum tyre speed into calculations flying out of Nairobi (also on the ‘Hot-And-High’ list of world airports).
Originally posted by greekdude1
Is that NZ-QF deal ever going to happen? I hope not.
I would assume that as NZ is part of the Star Alliance and QF is not; UA will exercise it’s LAX – AKL – MEL rights if that deal goes through and NZ is dropped — Just a thought.
Shamrock: The ‘domestic’ uplift in SYD was only 4 and an engineer – Two were staff.
AO – The Aircraft are not special purpose, just a continuation of the 14+ hour leg down from the West Coast.
GD – You are correct: UA have no domestic rights as such and the only Pax uplifts are as part of International through tickets. The old Ansett code-share has long been rumored to have been taken up by Virgin Blue. The MEL shuttle must be a real loss maker for them particularly since they stopped operating MEL AKL LAX.
Nice ride though!
(A sad part of this deal is the the Australian based UAL employees have been banned from using their buddy-passes between SYD & MEL unless part of an International leg as QANTAS complained that it was ‘stealing’ potential revenue from them! How petty is that? It does seem typical of QANTAS’ attitude from what I can see.)
Well, you have a point about Evergreen.
Much of Evergreen’s developement costs have been funded in part by the U.S.Government. Their reputed ties to CIA and NSA projects have been rumoured over the years – similar to the Air America project in S.E. Asia in the 60’s & 70’s.
But what benefit those worthy organizations would gain from a 747 water bomber? Heaven only knows.
Have a Happy Easter everyone.
Getting back on the subject somewhat…..
My Uncle trained on the Hurricane in the early part of the war before an extended posting to Burma in a ground suppression role.
Much emphasis in the training was placed on correctly identifying Hampdens as they could easily be mistaken for a Luftwaffe bomber. I am not sure which one but there were some unfortunate ‘friendly fire’ incidents.
Dubya-Dee: 🙂
Well in that case I will continue to always fasten my seatbelt on the outside of my blanket to avoid being woken up by the flight attendants and firmly secure my Gin and Tonic from tipping over.
😀
Knowing absolutely nothing about it – I am going to comment anyway.
It appears to me that aerial water bombing, to be effective, would surely have to be done low and slow and also in incredibly severe conditions of turbulence, smoke and ash.
The 747 would have to deploy all of it’s (leading edge) lift devices and probably at least 10 degrees trailing edge flap. This would result in tremendous wear and tear on those delicate parts and the associated expense. And as for FOI (foreign object injestion) into those jet engines ……. All we have to do is read up on the BA 747 in Bali to see what ash can do to a jet engine. Just think of whole branches being sucked into those old P & W’s! I cannot think of a more unsuitable Aircraft unless bombing from a great height and what effect would (even) a 747 load have from 5,000′?
The old twin/four engine recips seem best. Long live the DC6 and variants!
Interestingly: The 747 involved in this incident was inbound to SYD from LAX just a few minutes ahead of She-Who-Must-Be-Obeyed who was inbound from SFO. The SFO flight (UA863), which must have been following an almost identical route at that late stage in the flight plan, suffered no turbulence whatsoever. You just can never tell with CAT.
Last year another UA 747 ex HNL to NRT hit turbulence without any warning and quite a number of Pax and Crew actually hit the roof, a number of them being admitted to hospital in Tokyo.
I wonder if you deflected the radar to full down setting would you be able to pick up disturbances ahead and below you and possibly take a SWAG at what might be ahead at your level? – Just a thought.
(SWAG? = Silly Wild-Arse Guess)
Yes, from all I read here and on the ‘other’ board CASA seem incredibly difficult to deal with – far more than either the CAA or FAA.
I could not believe when I read in Australian Aviation Magazine that CASA has asked them to discontinue their often very amusing ‘On The Airwaves’ articles – because “It promoted poor R/T procedures” or something like that.
I realize that reliability factors are incredibly good these days and the volcanic ash injestion by BA over Bali (?) that caused all 4 engines to flame out could not have been avoided by having 6 engines. But the PA that hit a flock of seagulls on departure from LHR a few years ago showed no ill effects until a vibration alert over Iceland. Accordingly #3 was shut down and they elected to continue to BOS. However, sometime later #4 suffered a (contained) blade failure which changed the situation somewhat. The crew elected to restart #3 and divert but could not get it to fire up. The result was an uncomfortable night in hotels in Gander as opposed to a long swim.
As another buddy says who flies B300 King Airs and also an F.E. Cessna Caravan: “Which would he rather be in over the Sierra Nevada Mountains at night in a snow storm when a warning light comes on?”
I gazed fondly down on her today as I departed 09R this morning for SFO on UA955 (B777). For once I got a window seat!
I also noticed a Concorde parked out just off the cross runway, coned off.
What is that all about?