The Suffolk Jags were disposed of very quickly and were the original GIAs from Cosford. Unfortunately I’d left the Jaguar Project Team by that time so I have no idea how the tendering process was organised. IIRC they were under the control of RAF Support Command and although Defence Logistics had engineering responsibility they weren’t our assets to dispose of. At least the ones currently at Cosford are largely kept under cover and are genuine warbirds. We’ll just have to keep our wits about us when it comes time to replace them (10 years?)
John
Thanks for that, I knew someone out there would know.
John
Couldn’t agree more, after all it did give 34 years of loyal service. I may be mistaken, but there just doesn’t seem to be much of a rush, after all they have an example of all the other front line types.:mad:
John
What was the Sterling item for sale? It was taken down before i could view it?
It was the rear gun turret from the Mickle Fell Stirling, complete with 3 Brownings, hence the early removal:eek:
John
Alan Hulme has produced an excellent set of publications dealing with aircraft electrical eqpt, instruments and Armament/Oxy eqpt. The instrument book in particular gives detailed layouts for BFPs.
see this thread
http://forum.keypublishing.co.uk/showthread.php?t=76705&highlight=snoopy
I believe that she has had her first slow speed taxi run this week with the new engine
A colleague of mine who was in Aden as the RAF withdrew, recalled how the stores were emptied and dumped in pits and/or burned. More cost effective to dump than to bring back to the UK.
John
I think one of the biggest hurdles will getting Hercules engines plus hardly any type records. More chance of getting a halibag flying methinks
By editing error, do you mean the preview which mentions an underground fire yet there is no further mention of it in the programme itself.
Got some nice cockpit parts and swaps for the Chippy too:D
yes hopefully in my lifetime:D:D:D
The info that the aircraft is in 2 halves came from us. Our representative (who shall remain nameless) arranged for the transport of the remains to one location, one location is ‘supposed’ to have the wings including engines and empennage, the remainder of the fuselage is still sat at the original location, the original deal having fallen through due to intrigue and political machinations (John LeCarre eat your heart out:D). The frustrating thing is that no-one appears to have had the foresight to take some pictures whilst the wings etc were en route. As I mentioned previously, we have been chasing shadow and rumour for some 10 years and more without any tangible evidence. The Russian Federation won’t even acknowledge its existence but if the Air Attache can gain access, then any rumours etc may finally be laid to rest.
John
been there tried that, rumour has it that the aircrafts remains are in a hangar
Beat me to it Cees,
I was going to impart this in full soon.
The upshot is that the issue of the Russian Stirling was elevated to the level of the Chief of the Air Staff (CAS); through the Air attache in Moscow, overtures were made to his Russian equivalent which resulted in the response above. basically they are either unable or more likely unwilling in the current climate to assist us. The text highlighted in black can be confusingly interpreted, we believe that the Stirling does still exist based on eye witness account, but no photographic evidence exists unfortunately. all the new attache can do for us is to request access to the sites listed to ascertain if there is any truth in the rumours.
From our perspective this is still ongoing albeit that our focus is now on the cockpit repro. We could keep chasing shadows, but at least the top of the RAF is on the case on our behalf
John
£5000 – & that’s not even up to the reserve! 😮 NOT going to start on the rights or wrongs of selling crash site items & no doubt it was recovered pre 1986 :rolleyes: – Amazed its still on ebay though with the brownings – contravenes every rule in their book – Don’t suppose the potential fees on it if it achieves the money has anything to do with that at all? :rolleyes:
On a point of interest what would you do with it – great museum exhibit as others have said – but that price will still buy quite a lot for a small museum – most appropriate place is as Peter said – back in the fuselage section it came from – but only if then placed on display – can’t see the RAF museum splashing out the cash though 🙁
No – it will probably end up like it appears to be now – wrapped in a tarpaulin & hidden away in a private collection. Also would you restore it & remove the evidence of its past? – Looks like somework has been done already? The brownings look very straight & in much better condition than the rest – surely they are not original – & no doubt they have all been professionally deactivated & come with certificates? 😮
A lot of these thoughts crossed my mind as well and as there is no mention of certificates to go with the guns…caveat emptor!:eek:
As to restoration that is always a moot point, if it was to be reunited with the RAFM tail section then leave as is unless someone wants to restore the whole ish, then you’re back into the whole RAFM Halifax saga, one persons exhibit is another ones restoration project. If we got the tail turret all we’d have to do is fill the gap in the middle:diablo:
Update: turret now removed from sale