Blimey! I think me watch has stopped:D
Ok then where do the RAF teach such skills BIGVERN? Surely they do still teach, The only reason I mentioned apprentiships, was that subject was my Son’s first choice trade when he applied for the RAF not 9 years ago.
Trade training is now taught at Cosford, I’m not sure though at which level at which trainees pass out now.
john
not sure if there are still 4 ac at Cranwell for the BEngos to play with:D
No ‘war reserve’, just Ground Instructional Airframes.
Aside from the multitude of NDT inspections that are required to keep a post 6000 fg hr aircraft operational (for which there is no BAESystems backup!), I would think that an extra zero has crept in somewhere in the price:eek:
John
It is definitely Canberra (or so my ex canberra mate says) I may have got confused over the marks though:o
canberra I think and I believe it may come from either a TT18 or T17 ( I have one as well)
John
Re the bent pitot probes, I always thought they were F104s (chinese whispers:D)
John
Hi Janie
Have already spoken to DGH and unfortunately he wasn’t able to help at the time. many thanks for trying though
cheers
John
Hi all
have asked this question before on another thread but has anyone got any pictures of WP927/G-ATJK at any time during her life? she seems to have been camera shy and I’ve only got 2 fuzzy pictures, 1 at Detling and 1 at Hamble
here’s hoping;)
John
Definitely not Chipmunk
John
I’d just like to say how much we appreciate the positive thoughts from fellow Forumites on our endeavours, I just hope that we can meet everyones expectations.
As many contributors have said, the true value of the sizeable remnants of the aircraft is in their ability to tell a story and/or assist in reverse engineering them for the purposes of incorporating them into a FSM (because that’s what it will be at the end of the day). My recollection of the RAFMs fuselage segments is that they are very badly damaged although they are useful patterns. The RAFM u/c crate is sat in our hangar at present and has been great for taking measurements from and thankfully should we choose to go down that route in the future the reconstruction of the u/c assy is a realistic prospect (provided we can find somewhere with a high enough ceiling:diablo:)
regards
to all
John
Why not help insitutions such as the RAFM and IWM by donating all those Stirling / Hampden / Whitley parts?
In theory it sounds a good idea, however, these orgainisations are also constrained by time, cost and manpower. The Stirling relics have been sat in store since God knows when and are unlikely to be worked on in the near/medium future. The RAFMs Hampden has been a long term project and still is a long way off completion.
At least for the most part, items can be viewed as part of museum collections and they will be conserved for the future.
it would be nice to think that if such a project were to be considered, lots of parts would materialise and be donated to the restoring organisation, but there are plenty of collectors out there who won’t even allow you access to an item to measure it up let alone donate/sell it
John
RAFM has centre section (badly damaged), u/c crates and tail section complete with empennage.
We have Nose turret, 2 main wheels, 3 tail wheel assys and various u/c legs. Lots of wing wreckage, the start of a cockpit section and various fuselage/uc components.
Scattered around are a number of upper fuselage sections and smaller assys
As far as I’m aware there is little in the way of bomb bay/floor structure or cockpit structure unfortunately
John
To set the record straight re the Russian Stirling. The jury is still out on it’s proven existence. We have approached everyone on the Russian side from Roman Abramovitch to the Russian Air/Cultural Attache in London without much result. Certain political incidents recently haven’t helped in this matter either. On our side of the divide we have explored many different avenues which have proved promising only to lead to nothing.
We are still pursuing the mythical beast and something may come of it yet.:rolleyes:
I’ll check to see if anyone has investigated Egyptian Stirlings in the past
John
Determination and money is all that it takes, and that’s where the problem lies (more in the money side of things). The tailsection of LK488 is relatively complete and can easily be restored for display. A oomplete tailsection already gives a good view about the bulk of the Stirling before the Stirling Project have reached their goal. Can the National Lottery be of help here as well as they did with the Vulcan?
Cheers
Cees
Been there, done that, the RAFM were reluctant to loan us the tail section before when we just wanted to use it for measuring up. IIRC the same view stands towards restoring it, that said it might be worth trying agin. However our main thrust is towards the cockpit, with manpower/cost limitations being the overriding factor
John