Hi Bruce and MarkV
Any chance of a copy of the drawing for when I paint up WP927? 😀
John
I still can’t decide about N3638, in John’s position I’d be chickening out and doing a different aircraft. 😀
And I think you’d be right too:D
John
1/8 bit’s answer would seem to indicate that this could be yellow. I’ve attached below a closer view of this aircraft with emphasis on the roundel and lower fuselage colour. The votes from the Flypast Jury are……..
John
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Thanks Ant, I did look at this aircraft and a close up of the area uneder the wing definitely shows where the sky/yellow has been overpainted. All I need to do the early aircraft is the correct nacelles for Hercules III engines.
Hmmm 😀
Thanks for that:)
There seems to be a whole lot of conflicting info surrounding camouflage colours in that era. Bowyer comes down firmly on the side of yellow but to me Sky has always seemd reasonable, as you say at that stage in the war the AM were minded to use the Stirling for day time operations so Sky would seem plausible.
I have a series of photos of this aircraft via the public Records Office in Northern Ireland which state that the aircraft was in Belfast, at this stage it had the tall fin flash and the yellow band around the roundel.
Oh for a colour photo!
regards
John
I’ve just dug out my copy of Bowyers’ The Stirling story, on page 35 there is a lovely view of N3638 with the caption:
“N3638, a ‘Stirling Trainer’ with yellow undersurfaces, pictured at Belfast.
It would seem I should trust Mr Bowyer and go for yellow then…..
She was painted black though on issue to 7 Sqn……
John
Stop messing around with toys and get on with the real thing 😉
daniel
Currently awaiting some machining to be done:rolleyes:
And yes it still comes with the tractor and trailer:)
John
Thanks for your input it’s much appreciated. I find it hard to believe that n aircraft designed from the outset as a Bomber would have a temporary coat of yellow for training purposes. I have some other photos of this aircraft that appear to show that the underside a semi-gloss and professionally ie factory applied finish. I’m definitely firming up on Sky
John
Thanks for that. I had seen that picture on Wings pallete and the tonal differences in the photo also led me to believe that it was Sky. As this was a Production aircraft I sort of discounted the Yellow, however, a conversation with my Chairman raised doubts in my mind as he mentioned that ‘some’ early aircraft were painted yellow as they were used for training prior to entry to Squadron service.
To me this seems highly unlikely as wartime exigencies should have precluded a trainer scheme which would only ever have been temporary. My thoughts are that the aircraft entered service on the cusp of Bomber Command changing over to night time operations, a photo of N3641 at Oakington shows evidence of the undersurface colour being overpainted with black.
Instinct is telling me to go with Sky unless someone has evidence to the contrary 🙂
John
:diablo:
And would this new members favourite aeroplane rhym with cornet?:D
Its looking good John!
Rob
Actually no……;)
The KeilKraft fighters owner isn’t involved with this aspect of the build, he’s busy drawing up panels for us 🙂
There’s a lot more work to be done in this area, so it’s great to get someone else to help spread the load:cool:
John
We’ve got a new member of the project who’s a bit of a whizz with CAD. He’s set to work on the cockpit coupe (canopy) and is making inroads into this complex structure. 😎
John
I have to admit that I always thought that the fuel system was identical between the marks (apart from IFR) as the space for the fuel tanks aft of f10 was identical as JagRigger says. I think I’ve got a copy of the Cross servicing guide somewhere, which should give an indication of the relevant fuel states.
John