No pictures with Shrikes, but was not an uncommon load. No chaff, no flares. Did have RHAW gear.

I was at Farnborough in ’91 working for Flight systems Inc on our F-100’s. We had a Pod that we used while there, but I can’t recall if it belonged to us or Farnborough. Perhaps you could check with the folks there or contact Flight Systems, (now BAE Flight Systems @ Mojave Ca). I believe their F-100’s have been removed from service, (we used them for Dart Tow Ops, not the drones). Could be the pods are lying about Mojave Airport.

Red Eagles book & Constant Peg

Glad to see Bandit 42’s post and sure hope it clears up some issues. I find it clear cut and honest, no BS. All though we were there at different times and he was flying MiG’s that I had helped rebuild, I appreciate his input and hope others do as well. Oh yeah, don’t know if it’s ever been mentioned, but our motto was “The Ultimate in Air Combat”. MX wise, we called ourselves the Hallmark Gang”. (When you care enough to send the very best).

Red Eagles book & Constant Peg

Been reading / re-reading since Steve Davies informed me there were some “less than favorable” comments from people who werent there (TTR). I was there from Day 1. We were tasked with maintaining the Fleet of MiGs to provide exposure and “Buck Fever”prevention to U.S. pilots / aircrews. We did not evaluate the MX proceedures,nor did we operate as a WP Unit would. That was not our purpose. We copied no one and didnt try to be anything out of the ordinary. It kinda’ boils down to”whats the best way to kill a MiG? Lets get some, fly them and figure it out.Keep in mind PLEASE that MX guys are NOT FIGHTER PILOTS and by the same token, Fighter Pilots are NOT MX GUYS. Rarely could the two species agree 100% on the good vs bad points of a given piece of equipment. As for MX, of all the assets, the 21 was my favorite. relatively simple, dependable, didnt take much time to turn and had no really bad features. IMO, the 23 was not that great and had some issues. I wouldnt call it a piece of crap,but it was close.If some out there are offended, too bad.

Yeah, I have kids, grown ‘n gone. They could tolerate being corrected, and did not talk a bunch of crap about subjects they werent knowledgable of. I dont / didnt mean to offend anyone, just stating facts.

US Air Force declassifies elite Agressor program

Let me introduce myself and present my credentials. I am a retired USAF Msgt,22 years on active duty.I was the #2 Enlisted maintenance man when the 4477th was organized under Constant Peg. My name is Don Lyon(aka “Uncle Don”) I know MiGs, period. I have communicated with Steve Davies VIA E-Mail and ‘phone, and believe what he has written to be very accurate. I only found this site today, and after digesting it for a while, realize the vast majority of you pukes dont know the difference between the pointy end of a MiG VS the sooty end. What idiot stated the aircraft were poorly maintained should have his private parts dipped in Skydrol while they are still attached. We had no maintenance manuals, but made up checklists as we went along and these were constantly revised / updated. What we did have a vast supply of was TALENT.There was a lot of “reverse engineering” and late night bull sessions that pooled the days lessons learned into a program we could work with. At times we were lucky enough to talk to the previous owners / operators and pick their brains for any info we could use. The Officers were of a caliber unknown to most Air Force folks, not only the Pilots, but GCI controllers as well. Seen many of them do a lot of things their counterparts would cringe at. Same with enlisted, not just the Crew Chiefs, AGE mechanics, Avionics, just a very talented, dedicated group. Best assignment ever, no doubt about it.So you “know it all pukes” out there,keep your mouth shut concerning things you know nothing of. Questions? I’m available. Complaints? Sorry, complaint dept. is closed.