Yes, I still have yet to taxi the aircraft to the end of the strip without a major mechanical catastrophe.
Think I’ll just try shooting down a few Stuka. Behave whilst I’m gone!
Moggy
I have a new i7 4ghz Quad core. I’ll have another go and see what’s improved. Wonder why everyone always picks on the poor old Stuka’s? In IL2 those rear gunners were sharp shooters (but then I occasionally got blown by a tanks main gun!).
Isn’t this a bit like Formula 1 in the UK?
Either you accept the danger and understand it’s that, plus the spectacle that makes the races unique and interesting or you sanitise it, still have accidents (flying into terrain, pilot error, bad luck) and end up closing the races because everyone gets bored.
I’m not saying we should have dangerous racing but, if it was just a few stock P51’s on a straight circuit limited to 250mph who would go?
I went in 1998. There was a fatality, a Yak engine fire and crash (non fatal) and a Sea Fury engine fuel starvation (landed okay) but I still went because I wanted to see the unlimiteds. I wouldn’t have gone otherwise.
re the RSAF use of the Lightning- very true in what you say – very good experienced engineers if dare I say it not under the same pressure as RAF ones. I did operate in Saudi but not on Lightnings- No TACEVAL no 24 hour ops detachments etc. Also perhaps it’s true to say the RSAF aircraft were not operated as hard as the RAF aircraft so fewer accidents.
If you look at the last say five accidents of RAF Lightnings again off the top of my head it shows a more realistic picture of why the aircraft crashed
XR769 – engine fire following Re heat pump failure
XP707 – loss of control following non feeding ventral tank
XR763 – hit by part of the air to air banner causing engine -s to fail
XR760 Engine Fire
XR771 – aircraft lost after pilot entered spin in air combat
So what can we deduce – 5 aircraft lost all for different reasons – flying military aircraft is a dangerous game no ifs no buts and if you operate them in the civilian world you will have accidents – Perhaps not as many but history shows it would be unlikely to fly the Lightning under civilian ownership without incurring a loss – No one wants aircraft to crash but you have to treat these machines with the respect they deserve or they will and do bite.
What was the number of crashes v the number of successfull ejections?
Was the ejection seat generally safe, or did any service pilots suffer a seat failure, canopy jam?
Although massively off topic my dad, who served aboard HMS Anson during WW2 told me the day he was loading crates of AA shells into one of the ready use lockers on board the ship. He dropped a case. The wooden case split open and the graze fused shells hit the deck. One shell took the brunt of the impact and the lead cone bent over :eek:. Fortunately the shell didn’t go off.
Not sure how you would deal with that in a Health and Safety world.
BTW we suspect my dad lied about his age and couldn’t have been more than 14, 15 when he joined the navy!
Although massively off topic my dad, who served aboard HMS Anson during WW2 told me the day he was loading crates of AA shells into one of the ready use lockers on board the ship. He dropped a case. The wooden case split open and the graze fused shells hit the deck. One shell took the brunt of the impact and the lead cone bent over :eek:. Fortunately the shell didn’t go off.
Not sure how you would deal with that in a Health and Safety world.
BTW we suspect my dad lied about his age and couldn’t have been more than 14, 15 when he joined the navy!
Anyone care to work out how much the Apollo program would cost in today’s money? If the Olympics cost £10 billion!!!
I can’t imagine what it must be like to set foot on another planet (moon), look back at the Earth and wonder. It must be a very humbling and moving experience, and while I would never have the courage to do what he did, or ever in my lifetime see another person do what he did, I wish I had been there to witness the event, if only on TV.
From the report:-
“It was later discovered that 8 certifying inspectors resigned from the AMO
and only 4 remained.”Sinking ship
Maybe those certifying inspectors should have marked the aircraft as unsafe rather than resign and turn a blind eye. This accident sounds like not enough people saying “it shouldn’t fly” and turning a blind eye to those that said it “should”.
One thing noted in the report that I find quite surprising was that the Pilot did not have a display license. Shouldn’t the authorities have said “hey, this guy isn’t authorized to display this aircraft. Shouldn’t we refuse his participation and alert the authorities?” After all operating a defective aircraft is one thing. Displaying it near thousands of spectators is another. Just look at the impact crater that aircraft left. The potential to cause damage is pretty horrifying.
This is just the opinion of a spectator but I sometimes feel we get left out. In this case the organizers definitely did not have the spectators safety as paramount.
I don’t think you can blame any one person after reading that report. Everyone was at fault. Well done the CAA for not allowing it to fly in the UK.
On the subject of ejector seats. Some vintage jets are flown in the UK with deactivated seats. Isn’t that fundamentally wrong if, as it says in the report, the seat being the last viable means of escape by the pilot ?
One of these over Reading 23rd 17:30
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rutan_VariEze
Low flying Hunter in Woking town centre, no serial visible but actually XL623.
There used to be an even lower flying Buccaneer on the bar of the planets! Nice Ferkin pub too.
So, are the Russians improving their act with regards to formation, demonstration aerobatics then?
No disrecpect to the Russians but their demonstrations normally end with an appearance by the ejection seat and pilot sans aircraft!
Do any of these Buchon replicas still exist?
Seen quite a few Spitfires and Hurricanes. BTW what has become of the Lancaster and Wellington Dambuster film replicas?
Mainly because it’s the Imperial WAR Museum.
Oh yes, I forgot. They have some tanks.