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  • in reply to: 8 P-3C for $970M? #2675680
    Blackcat
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    $100million plus for that Vintage pieces?

    in reply to: Reusable Satellite Launch Vehicle (RSLV) #2053131
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    BTW SRE and GSLV MkIII are in a sense connected, as SRE has its future connected with Indian’s in space. And thats what I heard from Indian Space Week organised by VSSC during the last month. The chap in there mentioned abt the SRE to the ‘poosiblity’ of the humans on GSLV MkIII, but did not clarify. But unfortunately I missed the seminar which was on the last day.

    The RSLV if it is said has to be the recovery of the whole satellite lauhch vehicle or atleast the FIRST stage, as thats what cost the more,both in terms of time and cost of fabrication. So if a Lauch Vehicle has to be resused to best economically, its that first stage thats will have to be recovered. I feel thats wud only make any concept as resuable launch vehicle other than Space shuttle like stuffs, But we don have a huge budget to throw away any huge boosters after launching the vehicle thats can land on airfield after its mission. Though I may be wrong.

    I clearly don’t know the details abt the RSLV, as I herad it in the regional news, which failed to get time on national news. Also is the fact that the Chairman’s report (and the French Spy case, for which CBI is in France for extradition) is not to be seen online. I though atleast u guys wud be able to dig it up.

    in reply to: Reusable Satellite Launch Vehicle (RSLV) #2053133
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    well I guess it has now been designated as RSLV, as thats what been reported.

    The Space Capsule Recovery experiment scheduled for next year is a step in that direction. The capabilities that experiment will develop are
    a. Deboost from orbit
    b. Re-entry (including the heat shield required for the purpose)
    c. Controlled deceleration
    d. Recovery

    The a small scale SRE has already been done …. the same was also shown on DD news

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    A successful recovery

    T.S. SUBRAMANIAN
    in Sriharikota

    The test conducted over the Pulicat lake signals that the Indian Space Research Organisation is on track to launching the Space Capsule Recovery Experiment, which will enable India to join a select group of countries with the knowhow.

    AS the helicopter circled at a height of 5 km over the Pulicat lake, off Sriharikota island in Andhra Pradesh, the spectacle that unfolded was stunting. A contraption dropped out of the helicopter and a parachute spread out from it. Moments later, another parachute opened and swayed in the wind. Finally, a third parachute, bright orange in colour, unfolded, and from it dangled a “till-box” (capsule) weighing about 500 kg. As the winds gusted over the vast expanse of the lake, the parachute swayed back and forth, and quietly touched down on the dry lake-bed.The parachute and the capsule were recovered quickly by Indian Space Research Organisation (ISRO) teams.

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    The “till-box” coming down over the Pulicat lake.

    The air-drop experiment, held on August 19, signalled that ISRO is on track to launching a recoverable satellite next year on board the Polar Satellite Launch Vehicle (PSLV).

    The operation began around 6.30 a.m. A number of camera stations belonging to ISRO had been set up on the road from Sullurpeta to Sriharikota, which cuts through the waters of the lake.

    As the helicopter took off from Sriharikota, a cameraman’s walkie-talkie erupted into life. “The SRE [Space Capsule Recovery Experiment] monitor has been connected to the helicopter. Any moment it can take off,” a voice alerted the cameraman. In a few moments, the helicopter was air-borne. It flew in a huge circle over the lake. As it completed the second circle, it dropped the till-box.

    This was the third test over the lake and all were successful. The previous two were conducted on June 23 and 28. ISRO had earlier conducted air-drop tests of the capsule several times over land near Agra in Uttar Pradesh. The next recovery experiment, from the sea, is scheduled to be conducted in a few months’ time.

    THE recoverable satellite is to be called SRE. The satellite will stay in space for many days, and its payloads will be used to conduct micro-gravity experiments. ISRO has selected experiments in quasicrystal growth and biomemetic material synthesis. The SRE is to land in the Bay of Bengal and to be retrieved by Coast Guard ships. It will have ultra-high frequency beacons, floatation systems and water dyemarkers to aid its recovery.

    India will join a select club of countries when it launches a recoverable satellite. Only the United States, Russia, the European Union and China possess this frontier technology. A recoverable satellite has to be de-orbited and protected from intense heat when it re-enters the earth’s atmosphere. To prevent the satellite from being destroyed, it has to be coated with composites. It should also have closed loop guidance and control systems.

    The SRE is to fall into the Bay of Bengal within a specified area. The speed of the descent should be staggered. The three parachutes should deploy with milli-second accuracy.

    The SRE will help cut down costs because the systems retrieved can be reused. Besides, they are crucial to ISRO’s plans to build a reusable launch vehicle (RLV). A technology demonstrator of the RLV will be flight-tested in 2008. The RLV’s booster and upper stages will fall into the sea and will be recovered to be used again. The vehicle itself will taxi to a halt like an aeroplane on the runway of one of the Indian Air Force’s (IAF) aerodromes.

    ACCORDING to Dr. B.N. Suresh, Director, Vikram Sarabhai Space Centre (VSSC), Thiruvananthapuram, ISRO “got all the data” from the latest test. “All the results were as expected. There was no problem anywhere. The data are promising. We are in the process of getting into the details of sea recovery,” he said.

    The VSSC designed the capsule and manages the project. The Satish Dhawan Space Centre at Sriharikota looks after the capsule recovery operations. The IAF provides the helicopters. The Aerial Delivery Research and Development Establishment (ADRDE), Agra, provides the parachutes. ISRO’s Telemetry, Tracking and Command Network plays an important role as well.

    The Pulicat tests were meant to check the terminal phase of the descent. They were qualification tests to check the deployment of the parachutes. “This is basically mission-level testing to check all the critical operations,” Suresh said. The critical operations included de-orbiting the satellite through propulsion after its payloads had done their experiments, then making it enter the atmosphere with the closed loop guidance and control systems, and making it soft-land on the sea within a small area. For this, atmospheric and wind disturbances should be contained. “You are basically bringing down the velocity step by step from the orbital velocity to touch-down velocity,” Suresh said.

    The VSSC engineers connected with the SRE explained that parachutes were an important means of breaking the descent of the satellite. The parachutes form an important component of the terminal phase of the flight from a height of about 5 km. “Our aim is to reduce the speed of the descent from 100 miles [160 km] a second to 12 miles [19.2] a second. The main parachute can land safely on the sea surface at 12 miles a second and can be recovered,” said an engineer. To reduce the speed in stages, three parachutes are deployed in sequence. First a small parachute opens, then a drop chute unfolds, and finally the main chute gets into action. When the drop chute is in action, the descent speed of the recoverable satellite is reduced from 100 miles a second to 50 miles a second. The main parachute further reduces it to 12 miles a second to cushion the impact of the landing at sea.

    The SRE has four major hardware elements: aerothermo structure; spacecraft platform; deceleration and floatation system, and payloads for conducting experiments in micro-gravity. There will be flight electronics on board the satellite. Triggering systems will deploy the parachutes one after another at precise intervals. The flight electronics will sense the altitude and deploy the parachutes. The parachutes, pyro-devices, avionics packages of triggering units, telemetry and tracking systems, sensors for measuring the altitude and so on are placed inside the capsule (satellite). The floatation system will keep the satellite afloat. Its beacons will signal that it has landed. Dyemarkers will make it visible.

    LInk

    in reply to: IAF news and pics Thread : Oct 2004 + #2675732
    Blackcat
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    no one replied to the TTL that the IAF’s M2k has and the hours that IAF has till now logged on the M2Ks …..

    If that coud be found, then we can make a decent conclusion as to the accidents other than the IAF’s internal assessment of the accidents,

    But I hope someone over here can put figures for the TTl of the IAF’s Mirage-2000 and other a/c.

    here is another pic of the Nishant with that dome.

    in reply to: AN 124/Tristar at EGNX? #577836
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    Sorry to burst your bubble, but a 747 once had 1000 odd pax packed into it on a humanitarian mission. I think the absolute record is for 1,300+ on a Lockheed Galaxy of the USAF for much the same reason as the 747

    No probs mate … I don know the correct date as to when the respective lifts occured, …. I’ll just take that as a courtesy reply to my bursing the bubble that u had in ur signature! 😉

    in reply to: AN 124/Tristar at EGNX? #638695
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    Sorry to burst your bubble, but a 747 once had 1000 odd pax packed into it on a humanitarian mission. I think the absolute record is for 1,300+ on a Lockheed Galaxy of the USAF for much the same reason as the 747

    No probs mate … I don know the correct date as to when the respective lifts occured, …. I’ll just take that as a courtesy reply to my bursing the bubble that u had in ur signature! 😉

    in reply to: Guess the aircraft #578040
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    hmmm…… i missed my chance to reply for this one, but frankly …. that 747-400 is tha dirtiest thing i never liked on the Air India’s 747 … and Air India is probably the only one to have that 747-400 written near the door ….. I suppose some boeing guy did that livery … coz he knew exactly what that meant…. every time I see the Indian PM or President on TV broading the a/c or coming out , its that $hit 747-400 that does not miss to include in the frame…….

    also the 747 is the somewhat ugly ducklings of all the wide-bodeied operationals 2day, atleast for me.

    in reply to: Guess the aircraft #638800
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    hmmm…… i missed my chance to reply for this one, but frankly …. that 747-400 is tha dirtiest thing i never liked on the Air India’s 747 … and Air India is probably the only one to have that 747-400 written near the door ….. I suppose some boeing guy did that livery … coz he knew exactly what that meant…. every time I see the Indian PM or President on TV broading the a/c or coming out , its that $hit 747-400 that does not miss to include in the frame…….

    also the 747 is the somewhat ugly ducklings of all the wide-bodeied operationals 2day, atleast for me.

    in reply to: F-16 strafes school!! #2676542
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    hey u guys shud not forget Bush ‘s speech on the first anniverary of Iraq invasion…. he never mentioned WMD in his whole speech (maybe I missed) , but what he used was WMT yes …… he said Weapons of Mass Terror.

    u guys check out the cnn video of that speech…. i was just laughig when he mentioned that in his speech …. surely he has got some ghost writer for his speech.

    But…. unfortunately the only wise man in US has resigned.

    But then who was responsible for the massacare and ‘lovingly’ called as HOD??

    The Mexican ??….. no I don think so … he is a reasonable guy …. so Bush Senior?….

    Hope the chap face ICJ before he gets packed in the box, or else b4 that he too may remember all he did in his bed like what Hollywood hero did …. A Flashback!

    in reply to: Ren's model feast thread ! #238144
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    … Iraqi Ilyushin 76 by Aero Classics (YI-AIL) what a beauty don’t you think ? 😀

    well those were among the first among the destroyed by US airstrikes …. after all Boeing goes ahead with a plan.

    Now Unkil is ‘helping’ Iraq to built their airlines with museum vintage collections.

    BTW y is it that Ilyushin’s wing lokk like off from the body? …. sems like a bit more of space in there than the original one ?

    and nice collections that u guys got there.

    in reply to: Indian Airliners make the Biggies Run! #579944
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    well abt the two airlines thats mentioned, I think these are the two.

    After all they have been making heavy pockets at the cost of the State owned Air India …. but will get beaten when the Private owned airlines get in there way…..

    that alsio shows as to y state owned are not competative.. coz the $astards who works under Govt salary simply dont put in there best coz anyway they will get their seats till their retirement and their pay, but not like that in private ones…. these bloody $astards are the ones to be kicked out first, who are not trustworthy and sincere in there work.

    in reply to: Indian Airliners make the Biggies Run! #639646
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    well abt the two airlines thats mentioned, I think these are the two.

    After all they have been making heavy pockets at the cost of the State owned Air India …. but will get beaten when the Private owned airlines get in there way…..

    that alsio shows as to y state owned are not competative.. coz the $astards who works under Govt salary simply dont put in there best coz anyway they will get their seats till their retirement and their pay, but not like that in private ones…. these bloody $astards are the ones to be kicked out first, who are not trustworthy and sincere in there work.

    in reply to: F-16 strafes school!! #2676566
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    Mark

    I would feel a lot safer if they made my house the target………..it is my neighbours who would need to worry !? 😀 😀

    wanna laugh once more, its soooooo goood ….. 😀 😀 😀

    in reply to: AN 124/Tristar at EGNX? #579990
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    for heavy Freights, what else

    now no one can deny that Airbus was not impressed with An-124, after all it had lifted world record number of pasengers (refugees) on a UN mission,like 800+ ….

    in reply to: AN 124/Tristar at EGNX? #639698
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    for heavy Freights, what else

    now no one can deny that Airbus was not impressed with An-124, after all it had lifted world record number of pasengers (refugees) on a UN mission,like 800+ ….

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