Yes, the best way is via the village and then a footpath. Otherwise, you would have to cross the field and fences just opposite to the main gate to the hangar side of the field. Farmer would not be pleased! You could see the BHQ from the old tower if you knew where to look.
The Baginton Battle HQ is on the top of a ridge line just to the west of the airfield. Reach it via the village (near the church as I recall). It seems to have been one of the few built on the surface, rather than embedded. Unless, of course, it was once covered with earth.
I have to confess that I went to the cinema three times to see it, once myself, then twice with the kids. The opening sequences have got to be the best in any aviation film ever. Catch 22 comes close, though. As for the gay overtones, I wondered that at the time. A gay colleague has confirmed recently that yes, there certainly were!
Elliott, I never got your PM! I sent you one many moons ago about the ditched Whitley at the mouth of the Mersey but you never replied. Maybe our PMs are mutually exclusive!
Back to the Mersey Spitfire. A recce was made by a certain person on this forum but there are problems with Harbourmaster and access. Maybe not insurmountable. I am not permitted to reveal any more!
I recall visiting the Peak District Botha site in the 1960s and being impressed by its construction. More the product of a shipyard!
I once checked the BD report on the Botha in PRO (NA) and found no sign of the “should be made impossible” quote.
There were two fatal crashes involving Bothas at Halfpenny Green (at that time in 1941 known as Bobbington). Both due to engine failure. Reports of a mutiny among trainee aircrew are exaggerated but it was certainly not a happy situation and the Bothas were soon replaced by Ansons.
The Air-Britain Support Units book gives No 11 Repair and Salvage Unit as being formed at Henlow in 1940 for British Air Forces in France; disbanded 24.7.40. Reformed as No 11 Repair and Salvage Centre at Mallusk, Co Antrim. Redes No 226 MU 1.7.42. According to the same book, Tollerton A/c Services Ltd (Field Group) were responsible for the Lib and other bomber types. Presumably they administered 11 R&SC at that time. So, good point Paul, it doesn’t mean that it was actually broken up at Tollerton. If it really is AM910, how did it get to Ingham and was it being used as a procedures trainer by an airfield that didn’t operate Libs?! Nor did it open till April 42 for Polish Wellingtons. The plot thickens!
I remember seeing the Hali too. Strange single fin. Nice to reminisce even if it doesn’t help to identify the Lib nose! Since its u/c collapsed on landing in N Ireland, I wonder how it got to Tollerton? By sea and road transport would have been very uneconomical, especially at that stage of the war.
Oh yes, the lovely Sea Hornet! Preservation was not a priority in those days and enthusiasts were mostly penniless. A Blackpool scrap dealer offered me a P-38 cockpit pod for £15 but I had no suitable transport nor anywhere to store it. Apart from that, 15 quid was quite a sum in those days. Back to the Lib – Googling Liberator AM910, I see that certain web sources give it as fact that it ended up in a Lincolnshire wood. Hmm. I wonder what their sources are or is it just a distortion of theory into fact?
You have a good memory! I wrote that piece for Bruce Robertson’s Epics of Aviation Archaeology but had forgotten all about it. It has been sitting on one of my shelves all the time! I quoted Jim Oughton’s comments in the book: “he believes that it may have been from AM910 which was scrapped at Tollerton in April 1942 after service at Boscombe Down for the trials installation of four 20mm cannon and ASV radar.”
This would be a Crew Procedure Training building, sometimes known as an Airmanship Hall. Quite a few survive around the country on former Instructional Sites. The Bombing Trainer was two-storey and relatively small in comparison. I’m sure someone can come up with much more detail. I seem to remember that Murray Peden’s book A Thousand Shall Fall has a detailed description of a procedure exercise.
There is an ex-SEA F-5 in the museum at Kbely, Prague. A Czech friend told me that when it was delivered, a live cannon round was found in one of the guns!
The original A-26 Pilot’s Manual says that aerobatics are forbidden on this aircraft, or words to that effect. I haven’t got the book to hand.
All warbird owners and pilots should be required to read Anthony J Mireles three volume set, Fatal Army Air Forces Aviation Accidents in the United States 1941-1945. A grim and sobering read which should engender a healthy respect for all the things that can go wrong in what, at the time, were almost new aircraft. Especially if you push your luck …
Summaries, some very detailed, of well over 6,000 accidents.
Speke would be brilliant but not an option unless you bring the aircraft in by road! The Brit and Jetstream would also get in the way.
I suspect that this could be Peplow but printed as a mirror image. Then that might be a Shawbury Vamp T11!