Incomplete maybe ..But how do you explain the fact that RAFALE has always emerged as winner against Typhoon in every single evaluation starting in Korea followed in Singapore, Switzerland, Brazil and you name it..Even in India, Rafales chances are far bigger than Typhoon.
Rafale has always reached the finals while Typhoon seldom saw the quarterfinal.

How do you explain that the Rafale has scored no export success right now and lost out against the F-15 and F-16 f.e. Does it mean that these aircraft are all superior to the Rafale? According your logic yes. The Typhoon was ever plaged by delays, its high cost and lack of matury. Even now it lacks adequate AG capabilities and at the given price tag it’s unacceptable for most customers. Add to that uncertainies about the aircraft’s future it all adds up. The Rafale was in a better position by stronger political back up, at least to a certain extend a funded roadmap and a certain matury in some areas where the Typhoon is not.

They could be realy satisfied not to get shot, yes.

Sure :p

This bring us to many issues Typhoon supporters doesn’t like to look at.

Like the weight increase from the T2/T3 after structural strenghtening, maximum structural load, AoA limits, low speed characteristics, the fact that Typhoon needs elevator pitch up in supersonic in a way a close-coupled canard doesn’t etc.

All of which are well documented and quantified btw.

There are things we know about and which are acknowledged though we lack more specific details and some people simply don’t want to make overly eggerated assumptions to “prove” a point.

The part of its flight envelop where it would be markedely superior to Rafale is rather small, just where it was designed to shine, at Mach 1.8/2.0, for the rest it’s either level pegging or inferior.

Ofcourse because no one in the world knows anything… except for you ofcourse

I know but Scorpion was in his last post, involving it was from Check6 in a dismisive way as if could have been a fake…

Aha by posting:

Just another HuD shot from the check-six forums.

You pathetic troll!:mad:

SAY YOU.

Again; instead of adding to the usual smear, you’re more than welcome to put your money where your mouth is, because you only prove my point today and never managed to prove yours before.

None of you ever managed to prove his points wrong either, deny the sources, facts spin twist and the rest yes, the usual tactics, then smear when everythnig else fails.

You in particular have a nack for denial and never could show these points to be wrong, even now by suggesting that “his own sources often contradict him self or don’t support his assertions” you only can add to the usual mediocrity of the smear we’ve seen for years, so go and prove it please.

It’s much easier to do smear than research work and even more so, comprehend what is necessary to know in order to do better.

Good luck with the technical, the smear and other flaming technics, we all can do. Cheers. 😀

Not for long, according to the latest news…

Yes says me. And what? How technical was this very post of you? We know us since more than 4 years now and we certainly had more than enough discussions and we both know how they ended up. I see no reason to repeat that for the sake of forum peace and as I know that it is a waste of time. Make out of that what you want and throw as much dirt as you want, it neither impresses me nor does it make any of your claims more true or wrong and neither mine.

cheers

Similar to if you’re not in a LO platform, you should think twice before trying to engage a LO fighter BVR.

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As the US LO fighters are undetectable according our dear F-22/35 fanboys how can a non LO fighter attack them at all BVR, let alone a pilot be aware of their presence? :p[/ironic]

Why should someone prove him wrong, if his own sources often contradict him self or don’t support his assertions? :p

This will no doubt earn me the opprobrium of every patriotic French aircraft fan (and the Brits/Germans/Italians/Spanish won’t like it much either) and will doubtless evince squeals of protest and personal attacks.

For someone who isn’t long registred here you are quite quick in predicting what the reaction will be besides some people here. Not that you are necessarily wrong on that, but it’s certainly a little bit pre-mature! There is no reason to add your thoghts about the reaction of other users every time you post something. 😉

Scorpion82

I think you misinterprete what I said at that time…Against the SH yes (dogfight). Against the typhoon it was just to say it wasn’t invincible and that there is certainly too much “hype” about its air to air capabilities. That’s all 😉

I admit that in the debate with jackonocko it might have become too passionate. but the substance is what I said above !

I take teer’s word as mine :

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I didn’t meant what you said, but what someone else said on the base of your report ;). I agree with Teer as well and it appears to be what pilots have commented so far as well.