Oh dear – your Wavy Navy gentleman really doesn’t look cut out for long hours at sea, does he? Or maybe it’s all the time spent in the company of a pilot so special he must have been polishing his halo at regular intervals? 😀
I’ll second your views on the Super Ikonta – I have a Moskva, a Russian copy, and it was a beauty – currently in dock until I replace the bellows, though.
Presumably then, after you remark about ecxcitement in an earlier post, you never had to launch in anger? Or was excitement a relative thing – certainly looks as though your FDO would have welcomed any diversion?
Very interesting – do carry on!
Adrian
That’s a good start, Tim! I’m guessing that you were probably using a folding camera, which must have been interesting in a cockpit – or did the Air Ministry provide something a bit better?
So how did you get involved in the first place? Did you volunteer, or were you volunteered? And what was the training – presumably as you mention Speke’s training catapult you at least had the benefit of a ground launch so that you knew what to expect? Or was it intended to be a case of “press the tit and see what happens”?
Enough questions for now, I’m sure!
Adrian
Graham,
I’m sure that’s the same one – if anyone’s interested I don’t suppose the EAG are available to complain these days…
Adrian
Someone went to a lot of trouble to cook this one up. I’d say it’s a model, judging by the depth of field: on a bright day you wouldn’t see a difference in focus like that – unless you were using a macro lens at small scale.
Don’t forget, though, that you are probably talking a medium format, rather than 35mm, camera, with something like a 75mm or 105mm lens so the depth of field would be much less, especially if the aperture is wide open. It looks a bright day, but if the film was slow… I just can’t see someone faking something so well, but making a total pig’s ear of whatever is in the cockpit.
Frankly, to settle this, we need someone to buy the damn thing, scan at vast resolution, and see what we can make of it! It won’t be me…
Adrian
The B17 collision sounds like the one where one of the aircraft involved crashed at Canvey Island and was dug by the Essex Aviation Group in the 1970s – IIRC one of the pilots name was Ramacetti, or something very similar.
If you think that might be the incident, I can dig the booklet out and scan the relevant bits.
Adrian
I’m not sure it’s so much a propaganda photo as a “look what we found!” photo to impress people back home with. Similar scenario, but perhaps a couple of people coming across the already-bent-then-vandalised aircraft…
I don’t think it’s a propaganda photo in any official sense because an official photographer would be likely to have made a much better job of it – this one says snapshot to me.
Where’s Andy Saunders when you need him? He’s probably got the wreck in his shed…
Adrian
It doesn’t add up to me. If it’s a model, then someone made a very good job on the photograph, which looks entirely period to me, and a fairly poor one of whatever it is in the cockpit.
I wonder if someone was playing silly beggars for the photographer? (cross-posted with Lindy’s Lad!).
As for too sharp – has anyone seen the Life photoarchive? Photos taken in WW2 so sharp you could shave with them. OK, that’s not under field conditions but to say that WW2 photos aren’t sharp is a dangerous generalization.
Adrian
A little more grist to the mill – this is how I did it!!
= Tim
No-one seems to have spotted the wording or the significance…
There cannot be many people about who were involved in any way with the CAM ships – please tell us more!
Adrian
“Cojones the size of Scunthorpe: The Dick Grace Story”
Not one for the squeamish – but lots of crashes to bring the mug punters in!
Adrian
Why don’t we all just wait to see it at Legends next year? :p
Well, I guess with the shortage of Bristol Hercules engines, if they get the Chinese Stirling in the air it’ll be a fair substitute. :diablo:
Adrian
All I have to offer is a copy of “Crash Pilot” – but the link to the Modern Mechanics article is wonderful. Good to see a Wiki started, though!
How did he climb into a cockpit with cojones that big?
Adrian
Thank you for your thoughts, gentlemen. I had a browse in the “amateur” tome “Finding the Few” by our very own Andy Saunders today (having accidentally bought the book my parents were going to buy me for Christmas at the weekend, I’ve not bought it, but it is now on my Christmas list – will they take the hint?). There’s at least two cases in there where an airman has more than one grave because remains were recovered and not identified at the time, and I wonder if the 7lb rule – I seem to recall that the US version was 19lbs – had anything to do with that. At 7lbs a body you could bury 20+ of me – bigger than some cemeteries!
On the other hand, there was a war on, and people had “better” things to do than to look for bodies?
Adrian
Really like your use of the very wide angle lens – especially the second pic!
Adrian
I love the tonal values on the P40 pics (late evening sun?) – they could be period Kodachrome!
Adrian
I am sure she knew quite a bit already who wouldnt about their own Grandparents,
I wouldn’t be too sure – I have a set of cousins whose father was something of a black sheep, and they know very little about him. One of them has only just found out that his parents don’t seem to have married, and as for the ruckus at the funeral when a wife no-one knew he had turned up…
Adrian