Yesterday evening a Wallis-type autogyro over Oxford. Far enough south of me that I couldn’t tell any more than that, though.
Adrian
Phil,
For what it was worth, the first man to get out of a spin was, IIRC, called Parkes, possibly Wilfred Parkes, and was flying the Avro G (this is based on a Putnam in my school library 25 years ago, so may not be strictly accurate!).
Dunno if that gives you anything to go on?
Adrian
David,
May I be the first to say “You lucky, lucky, luckyetc etc etc”. To say that I am green with envy is the understatement of the year.
Incidentally, regarding my tangent above, during last week I came across the the gravestone of the parents of the Maltby on our local war memorial, easily identifiable as it listed all their children… and not a David amongst them. So I can safely put that one down to youthful enthusiasm getting carried away.
Adrian
You may want to beg buy borrow etc one of these books:
http://www.amazon.co.uk/One-Hurricane-Raid-G-H-Rayner/dp/1853101990
http://www.amazon.co.uk/Airfields-Eighth-Then-After-Battle/dp/0900913096
http://www.amazon.com/Spitfires-Thunderbolts-Warm-Beer-American/dp/1574888447 (also on Google books, it seems)
http://www.amazon.com/Tumult-Clouds-James-Goodson/dp/0451211987
http://www.amazon.com/1000-Destroyed-Times-Fighter-Group/dp/0816850046
There’s also an Ian Allen publication called Fighter Squadron at War, which I’ve only ever seen bound in with a companion volume and called Fighter and Bomber Squadrons at War that covers a squadron at Debden. By Andrew Brookes, I think.
Hope they help!
Adrian
PS You used to be able to get airfield maps from Hendon – dunno if you still can, but I’m sure they included Debden.
PPS Had my first ever bacon butty in the Sergeant’s Mess kitchen, aged about six!
We saw the Dak heading back into Kidlington late on Monday – a nice treat, as I’d already seen one (Air Antique’s?) twice earlier, and Delta Aviation’s Rapide, plus a Gnat and Hunter from the “do” at Abingdon.
Hope it went well, Tom!
Adrian
And, IIRC, the only person to survive a Typhoon structural failure. By bringing it back “intact” (albeit minus a hefty chunk of fuselage skinning including the cockpit floor) she may well have helped to save lives.
Blue skies, Diana.
Adrian
Well, power wouldn’t have been a problem for moving them – think steam! However, size might have made it hard work.
I agree with those who think the talk of hangars is a diversion, – I’ve been up close to the doors at Bicester which are of a similar date (IIRC), and they don’t look that much like that. Theirs, I think, were ballasted with sand – and there were several tons of sand in each door!
And why put decoy windows on a hangar? You’ll spot the hangar long before you spot the windows!
Debden school building is here: http://www.debden.essex.sch.uk/home.htm
Again, I’m not familiar with the things, but I would have thought at the time that any temporary building to replace bomb damage would have been something readily available – think Nissen hut, or Maycrete – wouldn’t it?
If it is Debden school, and that may be a big if, the kids are visiting somewhere.
Adrian
If you chase up Moggy’s website and click on the crews, then click on David Maltby, there’s a fair bit in there, where did your distant cousin live, presumably no-where near Sampford!!
I thought you might get your hiking boots out and meet us at Strines, more chance of getting a better pint up there than our last effort in the Fox!!
Nothing wrong with that pint – you paid! :p
All the connections seem to be Kent, so I’m fairly sure that it’s just youthful enthusiasm getting carried away. I don’t think it’s worth bothering the author, somehow!
Adrian
Well, I’ve had fun reading the replies so far.:D I’ll be raising a glass in memory of the tragic loss of Ethel Gastrum tonight, as well as to Humph. God bless ’em both!
I’ve also popped over to the Airfield Information Exchange and linked a thread to here. who knows, we might find out yet…
Thanks,
Adrian
First off, apologies for a slightly bizarre tangent!
This reminded me. On visiting a distant cousin who grew up during WW2, he said to me something about “the house where the Dambuster lived”. Further prying brought out the fact that apparently the “last name on the chalkboard” in the film was the person concerned.
Whether there is any basis in fact or not, I don’t know, or whether it was just an impressionable lad getting carried away. I just wonder, though, whether anyone knows where David Maltby’s family lived, as I know there was a family of that name in the village at the time. I know he’s buried at Wickhambreux, Kent, but don’t know whether that’s where he’d lived re-war or not.
Any assistance you can offer in proving or disproving this would be greatly appreciated!
Adrian
Transall flew low over St Athan the other day, beautiful noise.
Thank you!
One flew over us in Oxford on Saturday morning – wondered what on earth it was. You’ve just kicked the old memory bank.
Adrian
Just be thankful that it was only a pair of Bristols and not De Havilland Canada’s finest bush plane… :diablo:
Adrian
Just to add to the weight of opinion that it is almost certainly a German bomb – size uncertain without a scale. I see no reason to doubt the experts here. The tailfins tended to come off on hitting the ground, and will do likewise in a crash as well, hence why it looks a bit like a shell.
Adrian
(Andy – East Sutton! Tried to nag by PM but you were full, you’re too popular for your own good!)
Reckon the S-38 has good enough short-“field” performance to get it onto Gosfield Lake, then? Or is that water-ski jump going to cause problems? I reckon you need at least Hanningfield resevoir…
I must confess to haveing been utterly ignorant of just how big the XF-11 was – almost Lancaster-size. Blimey. And its Republic competitor, the XF-12 was even bigger – that must have been quite a sight!
Adrian
I don’t think it’s big enough for a Harrier main or nose wheel (though where I think it came from there were a load of tyres with the twin-rib tread. Now all gone, sadly). In the original post there’s a boot in one pic for scale – it’s only about twelve to fourteen inches across.
If it is light aircraft, it’s presumably something “official” as it has a broad arrow on it. Anyone any ideas from the numbers?
Adrian