Beermat, I believe Wessex Archeaology are running the recovery and they keep thing pretty much in house, you can not blame them as they need to get on with the job and when you think of the ping pong, tit for tat im right your wrong chest pounding posts in some threads here I am quite sure they are correct in keeping mum and getting on with the job in hand in the most tespectfull way without the aid of the armchair know it all.
I’ve no doubt at all that Wessex Archaeology will be keeping firmly schtumm until they have a completed report to publish. Consider that the University of Leicester has spent more on legal fees since its excavation of the Greyfriars site than it did on the excavation, because of the legal farrago with all the people who have suddenly rode in on the back of the uncovering Richard III’s remains (and that funding was only available because of a vested interest with money to burn), and perhaps you’ll see why archaeologists like to keep their cards close to their chest.
90%plus of archaeology in Britain is carried out under contract in advance of development, with various legal conditions attached including *I think* the publication of a full report (ie this is included in the law covering such developments, not at the whim of the developer), I can’t imagine that anything will come out early without the permission of both the developer and Wessex Archaeology.
Adrian
Given the palaver back then, wouldn’t we all like to see his remains recovered? I think it’s fair to say that it’s as sorry a story as Dennis Coppings. I wonder what the situation would be regarding another recovery now?
Adrian
1940s tractor tyres:
http://ww2talk.com/forums/topic/21240-bomb-train-photo/
I think even the roundel police would be hard-pressed to state what the tracks would look like in the frost. Anyway, I think it’s expletive gorgeous, and am dead jealous.
Adrian
When the EAA tried to replicate the flight they discovered that the Flyer 1 had a very limited flight envelope- lots of headwind plus catapult launch or it didn’t work.
Funnily enough, I think the Wright brothers found exactly that! Nonetheless, they learnt enough about flying from Flyer I to give it up practically before anyone else got off the ground, didn’t they?
Adrian
That is very, very nice, Chris! I remember being in Saffron Walden one Saturday (must have been, I took the bus!), and it seemed the sky was full of Spitfires with HFL obviously doing airtests.
Adrian
Thanks, Ross, that’s a really interesting addition, and a magnificent effort by the RNLI. I wonder whether that had any bearing on his decision post war to become a Coastguard?
As you can imagine Kent was a busy spot at the time, and he saw a lot. There was a Wellington crash near the pier, that Graham Pitchfork has written about in Flypast, and in February 1942 he watched six Swordfish fly over on their way to Manston, for “…the mothball attack of a handful of ancient planes, piloted by men whose bravery surpasses any other action by either side that day”. I don’t recall him ever mentioning he’d seen it, but I cannot imagine that the low-level flying by Lancasters at Reculver in Spring 1943 went unnoticed, either.
As soon as he could he joined the Home Guard, and was on the cliffs between Herne Bay and Reculver when an anti-aircraft rocket battery mistook a Typhoon for a German aircraft – luckily they only scared seven shades of it out of the pilot! Then there was the night when someone in the tin shed on the cliffs dropped his Sten gun on its stock and the entire magazine discharged… again, only scaring seven shades! On a sadder note, there was the Home Guard exercise when someone stumbled over a live grenade and was killed…
Adrian
Thanks, gents. Right now I’m having a “small” glass of port for him. His preferred measure was about an inch of port in a brandy glass like a goldfish bowl on a stalk, so I think I will sleep well tonight. Sleep the sleep of the just, my friend.
Adrian
Made me think of the David Niven film.
A Matter of life and Death
Adrian
I met them at Aces High earlier this year, they were on separate tables, but Steve was very keen to point out that that was the Mrs on the other one.
A wonderful story, I wish them the very best and I wish you the very best for your gesture to them.
Adrian
Just to keep the pot boiling…

Ghosts of ’43 by gray1720, on Flickr
Wish I knew what I was doing wrong to get such swampy looking pics, but I guess that’s one of perils of 1940s kit!
Adrian
I may have to develop an injury this year so I can see the show instead of playing cricket! That weekend we always seem to be playing on the Queens College ground in Oxford, and see everything heading in…
Adrian
I take mine to the local ATC when they get excessive, they are thoroughly grateful for them – you have two within five miles, Google tells me, so why not drop them a line? Or ring when they are in?
Adrian
What a great find, adds a whole new meaning to “Living History”. Where was it near Headcorn, Andy? No need to be too specific, just curious as I spent six years at school at East Sutton – which stopped 4 V1s itself, and if you ever find an impact site in the parish, I’m all ears!
Adrian
Flying that thing? Funnily enough, SWMBO and I both looked at the Focke-Achgelis (?) rotary-winged kite at Cosford last weekend and thought “Wouldn’t that look good being towed down the runway at old Warden?”. Same comment applies!
Adrian
(does my mind deceive me, or is there footage of the Rotajeep in the air somewhere?)
I had a chat with the lass conserving parts at the MBCC last weekend. Apparently the two main ID plates were probably fastened with magnesium rivets, which would have fizzed to nothing in no time at all in sea water, while of two other plates one had been broken off while its opposite number had been cut out. Someone, somewhere…. So it looks as though we’ll have to wait and see what evidence emerges from under the sea life. I think now it’s fairly obvious that it had laid on the open sea bottom ever since it was shot down, and was never hidden by the shifting sands, so it’s a minor miracle that as much as there is has survived.
Adrian