Thales will never leave anyone shoot pix of sensitive systems! they have a team to build fake mock up for age, neither privide any diameter or number of mmics !
Provide me a source on Thales security policy showing clearly that they practice this, or did you just assuming it/make it up?
they are the most advanced electronic manufacturer in europe with the biggest R&D budget and 22.000 ingeneers (3 times the whole Selex worforce) ..
they would be the lastest to fail at efficiency !
Source showing Thales has 22,000 engineers please. Also, since you compare to Selex, I’d like a source showing particularly how many are electrical/electronic engineers and how many are involved in radar systems 😎
No, I’ve read this a few times and still don’t get it. Still, you carry on your anti-Scottish diatribe, you clearly get some satisfaction from it.
Your previous posts on airfield closures and Scottish bias were so full of contradictions I wouldn’t know where to start. So I won’t.The only thing I am biased against is intolerance.
In summary:
-> I don’t care if Scotland stays in the union or goes. If they do leave, at least it will bring an end to the constant whines that if X bad thing happens, Scotland will become independent, as if we should be grateful Scotland is in the union and should submit to any demands they make in order to keep them in the union.
-> My view on Scottish base closures is that they deserve to have nothing more than their fair share of forces. If they have more than that, and some of them get closed, then I don’t see why they should be entitled to extra forces based there, above their fair share.
There are no contradictions, its quite simple to understand.
Sounds like you were dumped by your ex doesn’t it ppp? You clearly have anti-Scottish views which are at best ill-advised, at worst bordering on offensive. I would suggest that your views on Scottish airfields are biased to such an extent as be worthless.
No, I did the dumping, nice prejudgement though. My views aren’t “anti-Scottish”, my views are if you aren’t happy, then leave, don’t expect me to be begging you to stay, its not going to happen. And you would suggest that, you’re Scottish, furthermore I would suggest your views are three times as worthless since you are biased, nationalist and prejudgemental.
Well we don’t hear any bitching about Wittering or Cottesmore closing despite being in the same rural of England with a similar impact on job losses. So the actual thread is somewhat biased !:diablo:
Are you suggesting that England is entitled to the same level of protection from government cuts are Scotland? :-O
How about if the RN buys a couple of these ships and equip them with Merlin ASW to replace the Nimrod?
Or not. They are ridiculously expensive. El cheapo corvette these are certainly not. Added to that, they would not be a suitable replacement for an MPA as they lack the speed/range combination of an MPA. The P8 would be a suitable MPA, but again, incredibly expensive!
Not T-50
According to the article on the main Airforcesmonthly.com page, the RAF is to lose 2 Tornado squadrons (XIII & 14) while the remaining five will have 136 total GR.4’s in operation.
Is the AFM article wrong?
Doesn’t seem right, unless they are taking the additional aircraft and putting them in storage to extend the OSD of the others.
And anyone telling you they know the number of F35C the UK will get is telling porkies.
He said the number being ordered, not the number we will get. But yes, its too early to know. The order will be in the region of 25 to 35 though initially IMO.
I would propose:
– Flat Screen TVs in a common area, extra comfortable beds, laptop and ipod connections and similar things to make it easier to have troops onboard for longer periods.
– Hangar over the first helicopter spot for long term helicopter deployment
– Sea-RAM on the hangar
The moray area has had to deal with the blow of Kinloss closing and possibily Lossie . How would u like to live in a area that hass/will lose major employer. We have had to take the brunt of the Def cuts same as any1 else. And we pay our share in oil money which the gov has robbed off all of years., and guess what it was the gov in westminster that squandered it.
No, your share is what you pay in tax. Happening to live near an oil field does not entitle you to a free ride. The UK is a union, everyone in this union is entitled to a fair share of what the country as a whole has. Scotland is not entitle to extra, as some here seem to think. If you don’t like that situation, then leave, simples, then you can have your good bits to yourself, as well as all your bad bits. Lots of places lose major employers, again Scotland is not special in this regard, though many Scots do seem to be under the false impression that they are special and that the world revolves around them. My ex was Scottish too, Scotland this, Scotland that… Scotland so why are you living in England? 😉
Don’t forget Scotland has 10% of the taxpayers, so we have a 10% stake in the UK’s armed forces. Why shouldn’t we have 10% of the airbases, and all the revenue and local prosperity that brings?
Don’t forget that if we leave the UK, we’ll be taking over 90% of present and future oil revenues with us…
And under the governments plan for a 140 fast jet air force, Scotland is entitled to be home to 14 aircraft, around 1 squadron. Currently Scotland has rather more than that, so why do they deserve extra?
As for the oil, you’re welcome to whats on your side, I’d happily trade a few oil fields to be rid of the continuous bitching from the Scots about how they are special, and how their culture is so much more important blah blah ect. Still, it seems most Scots don’t really like the idea of being independent it seems, though that doesn’t stop the vocal minority in their kilts crying for independence as if they were a majority.
RBE2 is a eletronic doppler not a meca one, it is far more sharp and discret than any captor stuffs!
as about number of mmics or dimeter of antennas, bring somes serioux sources rather than smearing ones, because Thales keeps all this classified, as Pesa specifications etc..
as about RCS pilots and engineers states that ef2000 has 1/4 tornado one, Rafale has 1/20 of mirage 2000D !
Scorpion forget the pogrom ef2000 had last time they did BVR exchanges with Rafale to al darfha..
as captor supposed range without lpi is closer to a weakness than an advange!
That RCS figure is the minimum requirement set out in SR(A)-42. It was made before the damn plane, so clearly it cannot be a measure of its RCS.
10kW “average” (or “mean” ? I don’t know what’s the word in english) power output. You’re comparing it to “peak” values.
The source is A&C, in several issues.
I presume you are referring to “average power output” since radars are pulsed.
I think it’s material with some special RF properties used on edges and they do it only in this light-medium greyish color. Same as on the F-22, maybe a touch darker.
On the edges of the intakes and on the leading edges of the wings?
Thats radar absorbant materials IIRC, you can see it on Typhoon too…
In which case, some kind of magnetic metal like iron mixed in with some kind of silicon or perhaps carbon fibre, unless they have developed a better way, which they probably have 😎
Being an old cynic, I have my own opinions as to why the Tories have announced that the decision on the futures of both RAF Leuchars and RAF Lossiemouth will be revealed after the Scottish elections on 5th May.
To me, it is nothing short of them trying to hold the Scottish votes to ransom – if we vote SNP, we’ll lose the bases. They know full well that if they announce the decision before the elections, there would be an even bigger backlash against them here, probably resulting in a landslide win for the SNP.
I wondered if others could come up with any mitigating theories for these Tory tactics…
I don’t mind really. If any bases have to be closed, or work cut, I’d rather it was done in Scotland than England, since Scotland has had more than its fair share of political benefits over the years. I guess Scots are just going to have to accept that with Tony Blair and Gordon Brown (both Scottish!) gone, they are no longer going to be getting special benefits. Next step would be to reduce spending on Scotland by central government to a level where it matches their share of the population, so if they have 10% of the population they would get 10% of central government funding. If they don’t like that and threaten to become independent, then let them vote on it and leave 😎
While I’ m here ,
Erkokite :The AdlA says that it has more to do with SA (situation awareness) but they also said that the RCS factor was part of the equation .
Personally , I don ‘t think that the RCS difference is that big but the AdlA knows better than I do .This is one thing that has never been proven , sorry to say .
One can find may BS internet sites who give the range vs RCS for many radars but they don ‘t have a bloody clue anyway . Did they call every radar manufacturer and ask for the classified data ???
From what we heard here and there from the users , the Captor seems to have a slightly better range than the RDY (M2000) which is quoted by Dassault with a 150km range against a fighter size target .
The PESA RBE2 is said to have a similar range than the RDY .
So , the Captor seems to have a slightly better range than the PESA RBE2 .
But by how much ???
As you said :Indeed .
Range is not the most important factor while being very important .
If one can read in between the lines , the various Rafale/Typhoon meetings went down to who shoot first .
Whatever the RoE are , more often than not they are on the Rafale ‘s side simply because our pilots can identify the threat first , thanks to the long range TV cam .
Also , maybe Spectra can read Captor very early while Pirate is having a hard work with the RBE2 …Cheers .
There is a LOT more proof about Typhoons superior radar than there is about Rafale having a lower RCS. The Typhoon manufacturers claim Typhoon beats the Rafale in RCS, yet you disregarded that, and took France’s claim instead, then have to cheek to whine about another member’s radar claim “lacking proof”.
Also, do you have a source for this radar range claim of yours? It needs to state as you claim 150km tracking range against a fighter sized target, not “Maximum Range”, since that could be detection range against an A380 with a big flat plate stuck on the nose 😎
Finally, to cap it all, you say that the PIRATE (Passive Infra Red Airborne Track Equipment) is going to struggle to track the RBE2, a radar. This is really rather surprising, since not so long ago you were telling me how you are much more qualified than me in the field of electronic warfare, yet you don’t seem to the know the difference between an electronic warfare system and an infrared tracking system… :rolleyes:
Oh, but even though you don’t know what the system is, you definately know the French one is better 😀
what do you think the chances are we will be allowed to purchase the X-47B Pegasus and do you think we would for the CVF?
Its a demonstrator, it has little military value in of itself. It is also likely to be replaced by the X-46C. When a production aircraft is developed from it, that could be purchased, assuming our own Taranis UCAV isn’t navalised, and there is also the possiblity that the European Neuron UCAV could be navalised.
UK Taranis

European Neuron

Or the full title (assuming this does not break copyright rules), as if we use Google we can see the article.
You need the title to be able to be able to cite it, so I’d guess the title would be fair use, same with the author’s name, the date, organisation ect 🙂