you say PAF has acquired the tech. what does it mean ? you gave no evidence that SA has ever tested and done the development lifecycle of the missile….do you mean the PAF will do the test program ? manufacture it in Pak ?

Please search your considerable sources for reports of SA testing the bvr missile…

> proposed

thats the keyword yahoo. your report dates back to 1999 and
some are even earlier in the other thread. where are the reports
of prototype development and test firings ? A typical AAM takes
dozens of test firings from land and air before it enters service.

the chinese secretive as they are have released a few
photos of SD-10 test fires , shown off models in trade shows and released details…so atleast its a real and ongoing program.

> “very impressive on paper”.

thats the executive summary unless you provide some contemporary evidence all is fine and dandy.

our LCA discussions are based on data released as late
as last week (253 test flights). Is 1999 the newest you have got ? thats almost six years old :confused:

The third Russian-made stealth warship “INS Tabar” was inducted into the Indian Navy on Saturday, thereby completing the trilogy of missile-capable frigates for the force.

ladies and gentlemen, the US will now offer even more generous JSF terms to UK, germany and italy to try and wean them away from the “expensive” EF.

A perfect example of Unkil sabotaging the competition – yet again 🙂

> Last week’s cuts reduced the RAF to 178 fast jet aircraft
> – 52 air defence fighters, and 126 ground attack bombers

pitiful remnants of a proud and capable force they are…sad.

maybe the APG79 designed from the ground up as a new radar would
be superior to a older radar(sw upgraded) fitted with a AESA antenna ?

unpopularity aside isnt the superhornet
* having a great new aesa radar
* superb man machine interface
* great at low speed dawgfights
* reduced RCS
* qualified to every weapon in the US arsenal
* easily able to tear apart the AFs of the countries
US is likely to pick on in future

I think its providing good value until and after the JSF arrives. F-15
purists hate it, but how many A2A combat have we seen lately…mostly
life is the bread and butter commute to the nearby cave or camp to drop a bunch of LGBs and fly back.

– somewhat better engineering to reduce weight
– 2 AL41++ engines (no need for TVC)
– new radar, a scaled up Bars with new 0.2m2 SAR mode
– new improved R37 missile, KS172
– glass cockpit with reduced pilot workload
– better engines -> better range and uptime
– LRU based electronics with BITE -> more uptime
– better intake design for RCS reduction
– RAM coating and careful antenna design for RCS
– supersonic speed qualified SAR mode and SRAM type 300km nuke
tipped A2G missiles
– four dual pylons on wings for 8 R77, 4 KS172/R37 under fuselage.
– top speed mach 2.3 (preserve engine life!)
– thin CFTs scabbed on F15E style for more fuel
– huge canoe style recon pods and internal bays for recce eqpt
– ceiling 90,000ft at mach2.3
– MAWS, active and passive EW best money can buy, towed
decoy on wingtip.
– another round radar antenna below fuselage to enable all-aspect “shoot down” guidance of AAMs from a 80,000ft high perch far above the typical 50kft of most fighters.

how many F-7 ? there certainly must have been quite a few F-6
and A-5 flying when the F-7 first came on scene ?
-thanks