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  • in reply to: MMRCA news XI #2362343
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    IAF’s ACM says that he hopes that the L1 bidder will be identified in 2 weeks time..

    India may choose winner of MRCA in 2 weeks

    I wonder how the ACM came up with that estimate. Is it an informed guess, given the information available to him? Or did someone involved in the management of the bid assessment tell him the result should be available within two weeks?

    in reply to: F-35, third restructure in three years #2362389
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    The degree to which the acceleration has not meet the KPP is marginal. As to it not being about development that is a pretty strange statement to make.

    Weight and drag are out? How on earth can you say that? Weight and drag are the cause of the problem! More weight and more drag than assumed therefore acceleration is lower than KPP.

    So all LM need to do to improve acceleration is to redesign the F-35 to reduce weight, reduce drag or reduce both. Simple, no?

    I foresee a problem modifying all the frames produced before the redesign, though, so best thing to do would be to halt production until the problem is fixed.

    in reply to: F-35A for Japan #2363359
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    One solution being offered by Northrop Grumman is to redesign the hook so it can pick up a wire that is flat on the ground.

    Has such a solution ever been used before or would the F-35 be heading into ‘unknown’ territory?

    in reply to: F-35A for Japan #2363416
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    http://www.lockheedmartin.com/news/p…st-report.html

    As of Nov. 3, F-35C carrier variant (CV) jets had executed 59 successful catapult launches and three arrestments.

    Would that be 59 attempted arrestments resulting in 3 successes? There may be no connection between catapult launches and arrestments.

    What I wonder is whether the very short distance between wheels and hook will pose special problems. I have seen a graphic comparing wheel – hook distances for several carrier capable aircraft. IIRC the F-35C was less than 8 feet while the next nearest was 9+ feet.

    in reply to: MMRCA news XI #2364502
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    India has no timetable for the hotly awaited decision to award its $11 billion fighter jet deal, a defence ministry official said on Friday

    Finally an MMRCA schedule announcement to which I can pay credence. 🙂 When will the winner be announced? When the MOD is ready to announce it.

    I just hope that the suppliers have no timetable either for the validity of prices in their bids.

    in reply to: MMRCA news XI #2365155
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    We seem to have had ‘strong rumours’ both ways of late as far as I recall, I’m not going down the bookies just yet. Supposedly going to hear Thursday (where have we heard that before!?)

    I guess it’s after business hours in India now. Has anyone spotted any Dassault/Eurofighter personnel coming out of the MOD with big smiles or tears in their eyes?

    in reply to: Eurofighter Typhoon News & Discussions Thread V #2365553
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    F-X III – waste of time and money for Eurofighter

    South Korea is reported to be about to issue an RFP for their F-X III program. IIRC Dassault were incensed by the conduct of the earlier F-X selection process in which they participated in South Korea. With 2 US contenders likely for F-X III (F-15 and F-35), would Eurofighter be wasting their time responding? I recall that they withdrew from the Norwegian fighter selection process since they did not believe the process to be valid (ie Norway had already opted for F-35) so why would they want to be involved in another selection process where the buyer had already opted to buy American?

    http://www.flightglobal.com/news/articles/seoul-readies-f-x-iii-rfp-366654/

    in reply to: MMRCA news XI #2365565
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    Out of the rumours, the one about EF being cheaper is more believable, based on price details of other contracts, and the earlier submission of financial bids in November.

    However, taking offsets etc into account will take far longer (especially if stories that Dassault state they will enter negotiations into this after the deal is made).

    No doubt there is probably still some arm twisting going on as the price is still far higher than India wanted to pay (before this saga started dragging out many moons ago).

    Other posts say it is rumoured that the two contenders will be contacted on Thursday. Assuming that by now the cost of the two bids has been evaluated, what could be the reason other than to announce the contender selected for final negotiations?

    I wonder if another possibility is that both contenders will be warned that the cost of their bids looks unacceptably high, so they will need to make a last minute improvement on their final bids to reduce the risk of finance for the project being refused.

    Just a thought…

    in reply to: MMRCA news XI #2366161
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    More bad news for the Rafale

    The European-made Typhoon fighter is winning the fight for the $11.5bn (£7.1bn) contract to supply 126 fighters to the Indian Air Force in a deal worth $5 billion and 2,000 new jobs to Britain.

    The multi-role combat aircraft, manufactured by a joint venture between Britain’s BAE Systems, Italy’s Alenia Aeronautica and the German-Spanish giant EADS, has come top in the Indian Air Force’s technical assessment of rival bids, beating the American F16 and F18s, the Russian MiG 35 and its closest rival, the French Dassault Rafale.

    http://www.telegraph.co.uk/finance/newsbysector/industry/defence/8114951/UK-closes-in-on-11bn-fighter-deal.html

    Lousy report: simply quotes a report dated 06 November. The Telegraph headline gives the impression that Typhoon has recently assumed a winning position. Rubbish reporting.

    in reply to: Military Aviation News 2011 June – #2366237
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    Korea may issue RFP for 62 FX III aircraft during week starting 16 Jan 2012.

    http://www.flightglobal.com/news/articles/seoul-readies-f-x-iii-rfp-366654/

    in reply to: Is the UK getting cold feet? #2366255
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    The problem is that when the main gear wheels push the wire down to the deck as they run over it, the hook is too close so the wire doesn’t lift back up quickly enough for the hook point to get under the wire.

    On all other USN carrier aircraft there is more distance between the main wheels and the hook, so the wire has enough time to lift back up.

    Thanks for that. All is clear to me now! The question that raises is this: has this problem never before been encountered? I would imagine that since the advent of wire arrestor systems the problem should have arisen with one of the many types designed for carrier use.

    in reply to: Is the UK getting cold feet? #2366619
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    It seems amazing that such a mistake (if true) was made in the first place and perhaps even more amazing that the problem did not come to light the moment the first F-35C assembled had the tailhook added and tested for operation. I cannot understand how it would be possible to fail to see the problem at that point.

    Probably because those who made it didn’t know, and those who knew and saw it considered it wasn’t in their best interest to point it out.

    another thing may be that some who saw it, pointed that out but were rapidly ignored and bashed as “unsupportive” or that kind of stuff.

    The functioning of the tailhook must have been verified before it was used in anger. Surely there are protocols regarding documentation of tests? I imagine that failing to log the test results correctly would be a serious breach of protocol. Could it be that the tailhook worked as designed but the design was simply wrong so that it did not work in real life?

    in reply to: Is the UK getting cold feet? #2366668
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    There are a whole bunch of reasons, Spitfire, not the least being what can be found in the MILSpecs, like MIL-A-81717C.

    Work through the geometry & numbers and you will see why.

    Other reasons include:

    * Low Observables
    * Distance available before the hook ends up in the engine exhaust
    * Damper loads
    (i.e. longer Tailhook = bigger moment = larger damper force needed)
    * Actuation loads
    * Damper configuration/geometry

    Cheers

    Thanks for that.

    It seems amazing that such a mistake (if true) was made in the first place and perhaps even more amazing that the problem did not come to light the moment the first F-35C assembled had the tailhook added and tested for operation. I cannot understand how it would be possible to fail to see the problem at that point.

    in reply to: Is the UK getting cold feet? #2366682
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    But the F-35C has to compete with the F-18, the Rafale and soon the X-47B. The UK to me also seems more likely to go for a navalized Typhoon, as BAe has little or no stake in the F-18 (or the Rafale), while a Sea Typhoon seems easy enough to convert (which will generate more British jobs), will boost Typhoon production lines and also puts the Typhoon on the table for Indian carriers.

    Typhoon’s characteristics make it a poor candidate for conversion to carrier operation. That means it can be expected that navalisation would be a very expensive business with a high degree of risk. Spending £ billions to make it flyable onto carriers would not make economic sense when less than 100 would be needed and cuts to other defence spending would probably need to be made.

    India would not appear to be in the market even if Typhoon were selected for MMRCA, given that 2 types have already been selected for their carriers.

    There has been a lot of defence speak floating around in the last few days, but I am told that the hook is too close to the main wheels so when the wheels are touching the deck, the hook can’t snag the wire. It therefore needs to be moved aft…..

    Any reason why it cannot be lengthened rather than repositioned?

    in reply to: Eurofighter Typhoon News & Discussions Thread V #2367226
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    Quote:
    Originally Posted by Twinblade
    http://www.telegraph.co.uk/finance/n…hoon-deal.html

    BAE warns on Saudi Typhoon deal

    Defence group BAE Systems has warned that it is yet to secure an agreement with Saudi Arabia over the next stage of the country’s Typhoon order and therefore an estimated £500m payment expected in 2011 will have to be deferred

    What is the additional half billion pounds for? Assembling the final 48 or T3 upgrades or something else?

    If the original plan was to be shipping Typhoon elements for local assembly by now, that might explain a substantial payment being deferred if alternative contracts for UK assembly of the SA frames have not yet been agreed.

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