From the HinuTimes article:
“In 2008, Kaveri was de-linked from its original platform, the indigenous Light Combat Aircraft (LCA). Earlier this year, senior scientists said it would be used to fly unmanned air vehicles of the armed forces. Its derivatives could go into powering ships, too.”
IIRC dry thrust was good but AB thrust abyssmal when it was decided to call on foreign help to get the engine design completed. A deal with SNECMA failed to materialise so that fell through.
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Is that picture of a vertical take off or is it of a vertical landing? 🙂
Saab Presents Sea Gripen At NAMEXPO
STOBAR and CATOBAR capability planned. SAAB seeks “active partners” for development.
It’s a shame this was not available 5 years earlier – the RN might have chosen it over F-35 with Brazil a possibilty and India not an impossibility. Given SAAB’s excellent track record in developing Gripen, it would be reasonable to think that a Naval Gripen could be developed at low cost and pretty much on schedule.
Netherlands Selling F-16s to Jordan
EADS Still Hopes To Sell Eurofighter To South Korea
What chance is there of SK finding Typhoon acceptable? Almost none, it seems to me. However, if Boeing are now disaffected and have lost interest (if),and LM won’t come down on price to a level acceptable to the politicians – they set the budget – then who knows what could happen? Leasing a load of Typhoons surplus to requirements and developing a 5G fighter with EADS input might be a possibility.
BAE Systems has formally submitted a bid to build 60 Eurofighter Typhoon jets for the United Arab Emirates (UAE)…
http://www.defense-aerospace.com/article-view/release/148243/bae-submits-typhoon-offer-to-uae.html
I’ve figured out that the world would be a much better place if everyone brought F-35.
It would certainly be a big benefit to all who work on designing and building other fighter aircraft – they would no longer have to put up with the tedious process of going to work Monday to Friday. 🙂 Not so good for LM employees, though… 🙁
” “We disqualified the concerned company and will consider the remaining one firm as a candidate in the committee for defense procurement projects,” the DAPA said in a release, citing “flaws found in the bidding documents” as reasons of the elimination.
Although the DAPA required the bidders to submit prices for 15 two-seater jets and 45 single-seat jets, EADS reduced the number of double-seater aircraft to six, and offered prices based on the British pound, according to a company official.”
http://english.yonhapnews.co.kr/national/2013/08/18/82/0301000000AEN20130818001451315F.html
So Eurofighter could not offer to supply what was requested within budget and was not prepared to take the currency risk… End of that story then.
Next focus a Saudi re-order?
I will be very, very surprised if it does not – along with almost everyone else, I think – unless SK sees the Eurofighter consortium as preferable to Boeing as a contributor to indigenous fighter development.
Anyone care to guess the odds for F-15 and Typhoon being selected? Does 80:20 sound stupid?
“The government-to-government FMS condition requires a foreign government to pay the amount specified by the U.S. government for the F-35s at the time of payment.”
I confess that I never understood how a company (LM) could bid for a fixed budget deal without knowing what price it would be charging.
It appears that both F-15 and Typhoon bids for the South Korean fighter contract came within budget while F-35 failed to do so and is effectively ruled out.
The final decision will be made in a meeting of experts and government officials slated for in mid-September. No specific date has been confirmed.
In its bid, Boeing has stressed the interoperability of the F-15 SE with other models purchased in the first two stages of the fighter modernization programs. Seoul has purchased 60 Boeing F-15 fighter jets since 2002.
It doesn’t offer the same radar signature reduction as an F-35 and is only optimized for air-to-air combat stealth. What it does offer is greatly improved radar stealth over the F-15K and internal weapons.
While EADS’ twin-engine Eurofighter is not equipped with stealth, EADS says measures were taken to reduce the Typhoon’s radar cross section, especially from the frontal aspect.
EADS offered an investment of $2 billion in Seoul’s plan to build its own fighter aircraft and assemble 53 planes in South Korea to boost its aerospace industry.
If Eurofighter is selected, it will be the first European combat jet deployed by South Korean Air Force.
http://english.yonhapnews.co.kr/national/2013/08/16/28/0301000000AEN20130816005600315F.html
Does Typhoon have any real chance of being ordered?
i agree, getting the F-15SE would be a waste of money.
Mmmm… seems to me that you can only buy what you have the money to buy. Let’s not forget that the armed services of countries have no money of their own – funds are provided to them by their government to provide a service. If an air force would like to provide a service that its government is not prepared to finance, too bad.
I do not think AESA is a direct counter to stealth a per say . It is rather that its characteristics enable to better cope with the detection of LO and VLO. Most notably directionality & power management (avoid to be detected by the whole planet when pumping the watts to find that LO guy ) , frequency and wave length agility (to which LO VLO feature react with more or less success ), and ultimately better power output for comparable sized legacy radar . So AESA contribute to Stealth , rather than countering it and its most significant contribution is that it is way more difficult to fool.
If AESA has the qualities you mention, I hope Eurofighter are thinking about sticking it in the Typhoon. If it does end up in the nose of Typhoon, how will its potential performance compare with other AESA´s? I believe the number of send/receive modules is the basic governor of potential performance. How would that number in Typhoon compare with other fighters?
In a detailed letter written to Defence Minister A.K. Antony last month, Air Chief Marshal N.A.K. Browne wrote that Hindustan Aeronautics Limited (HAL) should instead focus on its delayed aircraft projects, especially intermediate jet trainers (IJTs), and not build the HTT-40 homemade basic trainer.
In making the case for further purchases of the Pilatus PC-7 Mark 2 trainers, Browne wrote that not only are the PC-7s cheaper than the HTT-40s, there is also no guarantee that HAL would adhere to the delivery schedule, given its poor track record.
“It is pertinent to mention that HAL routinely seeks approval for a small project completion period (Typically T0+60 months) without achieving it,” Browne wrote. T0+60 means the product will be delivered 60 months after signing the contract, which HAL fails to do.
Is it so unreasonable to want aircraft delivered on time (at least, more or less on time)? You can´t train pilots on aircraft that don´t exist because they are years late.
If a deal can be agreed – and detailed negotiations have been under way for more than a year – then the six states (Saudi Arabia, Oman, the UAE, Qatar, Bahrain and Kuwait) would sign a multi-billion-pound contract to buy Typhoons and military equipment.
sooo, that would be the mother of all defence deals if it were pulled off (which I think is unlikely). Having said which, it is not inconceivable that we could see more Saudi Typhoons, more T3s and UAE Typhoons in the near future…
wonder what that would do for the Typhoon production line….;)
Seems strange to me that a potential deal for arms involving the agreement of 6 different countries has been under serious detailed discussion for over a year with no report of this before (unless I missed it).
What would make sense to me would be if the countries concerned studied ways of sharing support/integration costs etc should they all opt to buy Typhoon.