How can the Russian navy thread be without those navy cats….here is one Russian Navy cat named Sergey Ivanovich onboard his ship Moskva. These guys always bring smiles…

Yet another de-esclation and the Russians think the moderate & radical jihadis and their master will play according to Russian plans. Good luck.

^ Ausitn, good article.

Few details and summary regarding the new production and testing facility @ NPO Saturn. Corrections and additions are always welcome.

NPO Saturn had already done much work earlier (also depends on how much funding was provided) and was continuing the work on M90FRU in collaboration with the Ukranians.

http://www.npo-saturn.ru/?rssid=1224074863&sat=6&slang=1

August 21, 2008, Rybinsk. NPO Saturn has completed development work of the second marine gas-turbine engine – M70FRU – and is planning to subject it to the official tests in September this year in Rybinsk.

NPO Saturn is the sole Russian company that develops and manufactures gas-turbine engines for the main propulsion systems of the surface ships.

The first Russian marine gas-turbine engine M75RU developed and manufactured by NPO Saturn successfully passed official tests in November 2006.

Gas turbines, the specs in the UEC link need not have to be the latest.
M75RU – 6,000hp – 7,000hp
M70FRU – 12,000hp – 14,000hp
M90FRU – 27,500hp

So thats how the designation looked prior to the much needed enlightenment.
With the dawn of wisdom back in 2014, the target was set for Dec 2017 for a complete Made-in-Russia production and testing facility and its now almost complete.

Gas turbines (GTE)

M70FRU – 12,000hp – 14000hp
M70FRU-2 – 6,000hp – 7,000hp (most likely the M75RU had a designation change)
M70FRU-R – hp? (Its probably to replace the existing Ukrainain GTEs)
M90FR – 27,500hp

^ Russians, afaik, doesn’t quote two power rating as per convenience like their western counterparts, they mostly specify the power@shaft. So the hp rating you mostly see in a Russian specsheet/brochure are the shp.

Gas turbine plant/unit (GTA)

M35-R1 – (probably M70FRU-2?)
M35-R2 – (probably M70FRU?… probably replaces the earlier M27)
M55R – (M90FR)
M70R – (M70FRU-R, likely for replacing the existing Ukrainian GTAs when needed)

NPO Saturn now consists of two new full fledged test facilities.
No.1 – upto 15WM (for M70FRU/2/R)
No.2 – upto 40MW (for M90FR and likely future variants)

Now, lets hope that the guys will start ordering the 11356 and 22350 with M55R units. Even if they cut the first steel now, it will take around 2-3 years for the hull to be ready for installation of these units. So no need to waste anymore time.

Regarding the start of production of gas turbinbes in Russia without Ukranian components.

What happened to the Quote function in reply??

So what Saturn seems to have done is reverse engineered the Ukranian Engine of GTE M70FRU, M70FRU-2, M70FRU-P M90FR, GTA M35R and M70 type ?

Seems this was the quickest way to over come the current embargo where practically most rusian ships depend on Ukraine engine

Btw, I dont inderstand why they still keep the “U” in the product designation. They took away the “U” from the Russian-Ukranian M90FRU to make it M90FR for a completely Russian manufactured M90 gad turbine.

The work progress at Zevzda looks very slow.
One of my favorite yard is Zaliv and if I had my way this is the yard I would have given priorioty. Its a yard with beautiful layout and it would do good to have 2-4 more gantry cranes for its current twin 400m slipways. Upto four 11356/22350 can be integrated simultaneously on those slipways, without using the main 360m drydock.

If they want to built a carrier, they have got Zaliv as an option. But I would prefer the yard to churn out 11356/22350 (& 23560) once the colossal mess that was/is the gas turbines is sorted out.

For the last time.. US anounced over the deconflict channel 30min before strie. US wanted to give ample time for Russian personel to get to safety. Had any Russian personel died in that strike, then it would have ben a huge ****-up for Trump.

You heard those exact words/phrases that muricans used to anounce over the deconflict channel 30 min before the strike?

Btw, unlike your first hand info, the murican announcements was not audible to the poor guys at Janes who is parroting the “normal” fanboy stuffs calling into question the very effectiveness of the Russian assets in Syria.

The US Navy’s ability to hit Syria’s Al-Shayrat Air Base with a large number of Raytheon RGM-109 Tomahawk Land Attack Missiles (TLAMs) on 7 April raised questions about the capabilities of Russia’s air defence systems, specifically its current frontline long-range system: the Almaz-Antey S-400 Triumf.

Read more: http://www.janes.com/article/69581/tomahawk-strike-in-syria-stokes-debate-about-performance-of-russian-air-defences

Geez..you are sounding just like JSR.. give it a rest with your vivid view on world order

I thought I was reading a liberal fifth columnist from Moscow.

Seems China abstained from voting in UN , WH seems to be happy about it though.

IIRC this is the 2nd time china abstained from voting at UNSC in Syrian conflict

One veto or two veto, the effect remains the same – the resolution gets vetoed. The act of putting 3 permanent veots at the same time is the habbit of the Jihadi’s to reassure each other, massage each others ego and to show that they are very faithful poodles.

pick one battle at a time and do it effectively and efficiently with all instrument of power.

Trump is doing all battles at same North korea, Yemen, Irak, Afghanistan, North and South Syria. although Russia can help NK as they are reliable and cheaper supply of labor.

To be frank, this approach of the Russians has been very stupid and a failure and the core reason of what we see today. How mnay stupid ceasefires were observed for no reason, all that wasted time including grounds. Add to that the half arsed supports for the allies fighting on the ground.

Giving support for the allies is where muricans earn respect, no matter who their allies they give the best support to fight their enemies. Its the reason why Al-Qaeda, IS etc are all betting on murican support to fight the Syrian and Russian forces!

Trump or any other puppet can choose how many battles they want to fight as its outside of his decision making capability, his only job is to approve the decisions/plans already made. But Russia’s job is to make its opponents bleed where ever they fight and thats is exactly where Russia has failed miserably and continue to remain so even after the Jihadi’s continue to create hot zones around Russian borders.

I believe, the recent visit of Tillerson to Moscow was not about Syria, but to get the feelings on North Korea! The Jihadi’s coalition wanted to know what Moscow’s reaction would be, if ever, they launch an attack on North Korea (considering the recent events) and whether Russia will try to make it yet another Vietnam for the muricans or not.

If Russia is not stupid, Russia will support the North Koreans military and diplomatically and bog down the Jihadi alliance in Korean peninsula and make sure its the last war that coalition is able to wage on any other nation with impunity.