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  • in reply to: Russian Navy Thread 2. #2026372
    JangBoGo
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    Pr.22350 looking majestic. Slow start as expected…..but they need to pull this one on track as early as possible and make sure the remaining 3 in waiting come online in 2-3 years time. There also is a more important task at hand and that is to break the monopoly of construction and start a parallel line at Yantar to succeed the Pr.11356 that is currently underway.

    in reply to: RuAF News and Development Thread part 13 #2257498
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    IL-112 video.
    Its better to speed up work for completion of IL-112V without waiting for outside funds…

    in reply to: Russian Navy Thread 2. #2026399
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    in reply to: Russian Navy Thread 2. #2027136
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    Pr.22350 finally getting ready for sea trials is a great relief, just wish the rest of the ships follow soon.
    11356 need to be accelerated as well so that at least two of them are available this year itself.

    in reply to: RuAF News and Development Thread part 13 #2216270
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    Just found at the German FF posted by “Feldmaus”: Finally a mock up of the new Yak-152 !

    Zukünftiger neuer Trainerkomplex Yak-152:

    http://www.yak.ru/FIRM/arch_news.php?item=348
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    Deino

    Thanks Denio. Beautiful!
    Love this compact cutie….

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    29.09.14
    The project Yak-152 passes first exam (translated using Yandex Translate)

    In the period from 23 to 25 September 2014, the defense Ministry held a Mock Commission for assessment and compliance “Training system initial flight training for flight personnel on the basis of the Yak-152”.

    Training complex is being developed by JSC “OKB them. A.S. Yakovlev” under contract with the defense Ministry and is based on the project training aircraft Yak-152. In addition to the Yak-152 the complex also includes a procedural trainer (“Special”), teaching computer classes (IRKUT and the system objective control means (“Topaz”)

    “OKB them. A.S. Yakovlev” provided the Commission with a full size layout of the Yak-152, equipped promising diesel engine, kerosene, and set the necessary documentation for the plane and the complex in General. The Commission, in addition to representatives of the customer, consists of skilled professionals of almost all enterprises involved in the development of the project and representatives of leading institutions of the sector.

    Having heard and discussed the reports of the experts, the Commission commended the project status and documentation, noting the conclusions of such advantageous features of the aircraft, as the optimal aerodynamic design, a significant increase crew safety thanks to the use of a highly effective system of emergency escape, the presence of a tricycle landing gear with the front pillar, the use of modern complex radio-electronic equipment and electronic display in the cab on the basis of 4 multi-function displays, similar to the one used on the Yak-130.

    Also noted a number of competitive advantages plane and complex. In particular, the possibility azangaro storage and landing on airfields with a small strength of the soil (5 kg/cm2), the ability to operate in simple and adverse weather conditions day and night, the same information furnished cabins Yak-152 and the Yak-130, the innovative use of diesel engine, kerosene, etc.

    However, the Commission made a number of valuable comments on the plane and complex. In particular, according to the pilots, it is necessary to optimize the ergonomic parameters of cabin crew under pilots with different anthropometric data. The Commission also proposed to consider the installation on the Yak-152 alternative engine to reduce the risk of the project as a whole.

    In General Mock-up Committee was held at a sufficiently high technical and organizational level, has proved the major decisions on the plane and the complex and marked the completion of an important stage of preparation for the construction of prototypes of the Yak-152 and the constituent elements of a Training system initial flight training for flight crews”.

    Source: JSC “OKB them. A.S. Yakovlev”

    HAL is still going solo on their basic trainer and I wish they consider joining the Yak-152 project, which is in its design documentation phase, with its own name or designation like the Chinese with their L-7. Its going to be hit with aero clubs if properly marketed and Yakovlev with its aero sports background with previous models should aim very high.

    11.04.14
    Russia launches tender for Yak-152 trainer aircraft

    Russia is to complete the development of the Yakovlev Yak-152 turboprop trainer The aircraft is planned to enter service in late 2016

    Russia has launched a tender for the completion of the development of the Yakov-lev Yak-152 basic turboprop trainer aircraft, federal arms supply agency Rosoboron-postavka announced on 19 March.

    The tender, with an assigned budget of RUB300 million (USD8.32 million), is intended to complete the design documentation for the aircraft and lead to the production of four prototype aircraft. According to Rosobo-ronpostavka’s statement, Irkut Corporation has estimated that the cost of the work is likely to be RUB318.7 million.

    Irkut’s Yakovlev design bureau has been working on the Yak-152 design (in partnership with China’s Hongdu Aviation Industry Group – HAIC) since at least 2004. HAIC is understood to have built six prototypes of its version of the design, called the L-7, with the first making its public debut at the Zhuhai air show in November 2010, although no maiden flight of the Yak-152/L-7 design has been confirmed.

    Under the tender, the completion of the design documentation for manufacturing the prototype aircraft is to be completed by the end of September 2014. The programme then calls for the construction of two prototypes for flight trials, a prototype for static tests, and a fourth for fatigue testing – to be built by the end of October 2015 these will then undergo a state trial programme lasting until the end of September 2016, with Russia planning to be able to accept the first Yak-152 trainer into service by the end of November 2016.

    Russia is intending that the Yak-152 will become the country’s new basic turboprop aircraft, serving with the Russian Ministry of Defence, the paramilitary sports organisation DOSAAF, and “other organisations”, according to Rosoboronpostavka. Following training on the Yak-152 Russian military pilots will then transfer onto the Yakovlev Yak-130 ‘Mitten’ advanced jet trainer. It is understood that the MAI-223 Kityonok ultra-light aircraft will be used as a screener aircraft prior to pilots training on the Yak-152.

    The tender documents stipulate that the Yak-152 must have a maximum speed of at least 300-320 kph; a maximum altitude of 4,000 m; a maximum take-off/landing distance of 300 m; a range of 1,400 km; and a service life of 10-30,000 hours, or some 30 years.

    According to the tender, the aircraft will be powered by a German-designed engine, will feature retractable tricycle landing gear, and have the SKS-94M ejection system for both crew.

    Lets hope the current Ukraine crisis will help in making the right decision to opt for a local engine and ditch any option for a German engine.

    in reply to: RuAF News and Development Thread part 13 #2231639
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    RAC-MiG proposal for MiG-31 successor looks awesome. Even in its new form the brute of MiG-31 can be felt. Hope itz realised soon.

    in reply to: Indian Navy : News & Discussion – V #2028250
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    ^ Nice to see a clear shot of INS Arihant….but not at all a surprising hump as we have been used to seeing this kind of hump for the past one decade on the model of Amur 1650. If anyone wants to know how an Amur 1650 will look like in real with those 8 x silos, look at INS Arihant. Its the closest.

    INS Kolkata is disappointing as I expected no less than 64 x SAMs. Lets hope atleast the next ship will have a different VLS module. Barak-8 seems like a disaster for the IN ships and its all because of that big mouthed idiot admiral who wanted to pull away everything from Russian ‘influence’ and embrace his western buddies. There was an option available to fit atleast the initial batches of the new ships with 40 Km VL Shtil-I or 9M96 or the 120Km 9M96E2 and install the later on ships with Barak-8 missiles when it was ready. But maybe he/those involved feared that precious business for his/their buddies would be lost if an initial batch order was given for Shtil-I or 9M96. Instead those involved to further their agenda, directly went in for a co-development for Barak-8 with Israel who have no prior experience with proper SAMs and Naval SAMs by completely side-stepping a co-development/lic manufacturing of 120Km 9M96E2.

    INS Kolkata is now the most heavily armed offshore patrol vessel of the Indian Navy and will be protected by other ships with air-cover so that it can unleash its awesome anti-ship firepower. Till the time the ship gets fully battle ready, the crew will get enough time to master their new ship and that is the most positive part!

    in reply to: INS Vikramaditya: Steaming towards Induction #2029297
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    Nice to see pictures that we have been waiting on for years – MiG-29Ks on the deck of INS Vikramaditya. I must also be thankful to God for hearing my prayers to not dirty the decks of Vikramaditya with MMS.

    The current carrier qualified pilot numbers 12 and IN is doing it slow and steady. If we take it in monthly figures, its like 3 pilots/month starting Feb 2014. The recent hard nose-down on the deck has probably got to do with lack of experience as can happen in a new environment, but hope the aircraft is not damaged.

    From recent interviews during the PM’s visit, the daytime syllabus of 29K pilots calls for 15-20 sorties on land and then progress to the deck where another 15-20 sorties on deck make them carrier qualified. Night sorties have not yet started, but will soon start as the first of the pilots is nearing the 50 sortie mark for commencement of Night sorties.

    Cmdr.Suraj Berry also confirms during the recent PM’s visit what we have been speculating on the forum. INS Vikramaditya will be carrying upto 34 aircraft’s of various kind and will be carnying 24 x MiG-29Ks. The endurance of VKD is 45 days as we had already seen during sea trials in Russia.

    Another video of VKD. The opening song of the video is the official Vikramaditya song and an anthem for crew of INS Vikramaditya for the next 40 years….

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    ^ Above screenshots are really interesting as it shows the flight ops from the 2nd launch position with 5 x MiG-29Ks anchored at foredeck. I wonder if the 29K can be launched from the 1st launch station with such arrangement and if there will be enough clearance?

    in reply to: INS Vikramaditya: Steaming towards Induction #2029298
    JangBoGo
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    A related article on the visit and these are the best words…. long live!

    May you shine like the Aditya (the sun). May you outshine everything that comes your way.

    Modi sees what no PM has in 30 years

    SUJAN DUTTA

    On board the INS Vikramaditya off Goa, June 14: In the seconds that the Dhruv helicopter hovers before landing, the downwash from its rotors scatters the waves on the water, and the vastness of the Vikramaditya, the Indian Navy’s newest aircraft carrier acquired after decades of toil, suddenly becomes real.

    As the chopper, suspended above its flight deck, aligns itself to land, one can see through its cockpit windshield and over the ski-jump at the far end of the deck that another carrier, the INS Viraat, has just begun manoeuvring to line-up for a steam-past of the Western Fleet.

    Such is the view that Narendra Modi commands as he lands in his Seaking 48 Charlie helicopter minutes after the Dhruv, which has ferried journalists from the naval air station at Dabolim, Goa. No other ruler of an Asian country today can command such a sight.

    For a powerful Prime Minister, the view is stunning: not in 30 years has an Indian Prime Minister assumed office when India’s navy is operating two aircraft carriers, each capable of multiplying fire-and-surveillance power by over a thousand miles.

    The moment is barely lost on Modi. On landing, he heads straight to a MiG29K fighter aircraft – the main combat arm of the Vikramaditya – that is lashed to the deck with its canopy open.

    The chief of naval staff, Admiral Robin Dhowan, and a pilot brief him as Modi, his kurta, pyjamas and blue waistcoat contrasting with the pilot’s G-suit, climbs up a ladder into the cockpit without assistance.
    Modi onboard the INS Vikramaditya. (PTI)

    He takes off the naval cap he is wearing, looks at the cameras and waves the cap. It’s power projection’s snapshot moment: a brand new PM in a brand new fighter aircraft on a brand new aircraft carrier. Pose over, he goes for another: he pats the pilot.

    The Prime Minister’s actions did the talking. A scheduled media interaction was cancelled. But Modi used a meeting with the ship’s company to emphasise what had brought him here.

    Even if this meeting was barred to the media, the navy used its new communications satellite -– the Rukmini -– to beam its pictures through government broadcaster Doordarshan to the homes of viewers. (Also a first. As one naval officer put it: “You’ve seen action from land in your drawing rooms; now you can see action in water too.”)

    In his brief speech to the officers and sailors, Modi began by underlining the importance of his visit. “I came directly to you after assuming office. This shows my priority and the government’s priority of doing something for the sacrifices you have made.”

    The Prime Minister’s day at sea here today was not only his first visit to a field military establishment, it was also his first business trip outside the capital after assuming office.

    Tomorrow, he begins his first foreign trip –– to Bhutan. On Friday, he spent more than two hours in the military operations directorate –– or war room -– of the defence ministry in South Block.

    In cheating the media of pictures, Modi’s military tour has showcased a Prime Minister with soldierly intent. But one who has missed, for reasons of weather and wherewithal combined, the main purpose — the raison d’etre —– of an aircraft carrier.

    Fighter aircraft are meant to take off from the Vikramaditya’s flight-deck, carry out operational missions of offence and defence, and land and shelter in it. No such thing happened onboard the VKD (the navy’s short form of the name). The nearest it came to simulating such missions were two touch-and-go sorties by MiG29K aircraft, difficult naval flying manoeuvres in their own way.

    The event was marred by rain. Also, not enough naval pilots have been trained yet to be “carrier qualified”. Only 12 pilots have been certified to land and take off from the ship so far. Earlier this month, one made a “hard-landing” that damaged the nose wheel of the plane.

    Modi was given a demonstration, though, of the assets of the navy’s Western Fleet (barring submarines) –– its “sword arm” —- when 14 ships steamed past as he took a salute from the flag deck after two warships, the Tegh and the Tarkash, had fired four anti-submarine missiles to mark the beginning of the show.

    Among them were the Viraat, of course, Delhi-class destroyers, four frigates and surveillance aircraft — including the most recently acquired, US-made P8i — that flew past.

    Inside the VKD, speaking to the sailors, Modi said: “Hum vaade nahin, iraade leke aae hain (I’ve come not with promises but with intent).”

    Part of his intent, he said, was to look after the welfare of soldiers by implementing a long-demanded “one rank, one pension” scheme and by finding job opportunities for skilled soldiers who retire early (often as early as 40 years of age).

    Much of his intent, he said, though, was to upgrade the technology of the military. One senior naval officer who was at the meeting said he was impressed “with the way Modi linked the importance of maritime security with economic growth”.

    Modi emphasised that India’s sea lanes of communication depended on the security of maritime trade that the Indian Navy must guarantee.

    “I believe that a country’s security should be at its best for the people to live in ease. New technologies have come, which would add to the strength of the psyche of the defence personnel. INS Vikramaditya is an example of that,” Modi said.

    He emphasised too the need to reduce dependence on imports. Nearly 80 per cent of India’s military equipment is imported. The Vikramaditya still has Russian crew on board who have to certify that the Indians are maintaining its systems well and certify the carrier qualification of the MiG29K pilots.

    “We are not here to give challenges to anyone, but we will also not take challenges casually. Our defence mechanisms would be the best in the world,” Modi said, referring to delays in procurement and complaints that the armed forces were using outdated technology.

    The Vikramaditya, formerly the Admiral Gorshkov, and before that the Baku, was originally designed as a helicopter carrier. Contracted during the tenure of the Vajpayee-led NDA government on January 20, 2004, it was delayed and its price doubled to $2.33 billion before it was finally commissioned in Russia in November last year. The vessel sailed through December, reaching Indian waters in January this year.

    The naval base where the VKD is to be home-ported -– Karwar, also called “Project Seabird”, on the north Karnataka coast —- is also a work in progress, more than 30 years after its execution began. Seabird has yet to conclude its Phase I. Last week, the Centre said it was granting it the approvals for Phase II.

    The 44,500-tonne Vikramaditya -– named not after the kings who ruled in ancient and medieval India but because of the word’s Sanskrit meaning, “brave and powerful as the shining sun” — can be berthed only in Karwar because no other naval dockyard has enough space for a warship its size.

    Modi told its crew: “May you shine like the aditya (the sun). May you outshine everything that comes your way.”

    in reply to: RuAF News and Development Thread part 13 #2223984
    JangBoGo
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    Came across this article…

    Can Russia’s military fly without Ukraine’s parts?

    A Ukrainian Mi-24 military helicopter is seen near the village of Salkovo, adjacent to Crimea, last month. Ukraine is a major producer of Russian military components – including helicopter engines – throwing a new wrinkle into Russia’s efforts to pressure Kiev.

    Valentyn Ogirenko/Reuters

    Russia’s sleek new military machine, currently poised on Ukraine’s eastern borders, has a problem: It runs on components produced in Ukraine, which are still being delivered by Ukrainian companies.

    And now, Ukraine’s beleaguered interim government is warning that it might call a halt to all arms supplies to Russia: “Manufacturing products for Russia that will later be aimed against us would be complete insanity,” Vitaliy Yarema, Kiev’s first deputy prime minister, said.

    Klimov JSC products serial production and manufacturers. This is from the company’s older brochure but the status remain unchanged.

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    Ukraine and Motor Sich have been living off Klimov’s designs for over 2 decades since “independence” and even continue to get Russian finance at the cost of Russian companies. They should have ditched Motor Sich long ago and should have supported Russian companies and in-house production.

    in reply to: ShinMaywa US-2 Vs Boeing P-8I #2253015
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    Another contender in the contest for an amphibian is Be-200

    Be-200Chs first employed/demonstrated its SAR and fire-fighting capability during Kaliningrad 2004 exercise. Picture lined in order of action

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    ^ A Be-200Chs coming in for fire fighting lands and unload its inflatable to rescue the survivors in the sea.

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    ^ Picks up the survivors and take water in its belly

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    ^ 12t water-bombs douses the fire on the offshore platform in one go and off goes the amphibian…

    In 2004 Russia conduced an exercise which I personally & any Indian can truly relate to as India’s own very need. Strangely even after nearly 10 years India have not conducted anything even close to this exercises. If such a rescue ops is likelly to happen in any place other than Russia, it is in Indian seas and I would rate the chance for an off-shore platform to meet an ‘accident’ much higher than what Russia is facing at this moment. This 2004 exercise would have been a reality if the terrorists attack in Mumbai had instead taken place on the offshore assets off Mumbai.

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    little more to add… will do later.

    in reply to: INS Vikramaditya: Steaming towards Induction #2032426
    JangBoGo
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    7th February 2014 marked the beginning of new phase of Indian Carrier based aviation.

    http://en.itar-tass.com/world/718049

    First Indian-piloted MiG safely lands on Vikramaditya aircraft carrier

    NEW DELHI, February 07. /ITAR-TASS/. A MIG-29KUB fighter piloted by an Indian pilot has made the first-ever landing on the deck of the Indian aircraft carrier Vikramaditya, a spokesman for Russia’s United Shipbuilding Corporation told Itar-Tass Friday.

    “The landing of a two-seat sea-based MIG-29K jet was accomplished successfully,” he said. “The second pilot was a Russian officer.”

    First Indian MiG-29 Fighter Jet Lands on Vikramaditya

    MOSCOW, February 7 (RIA Novosti) – An Indian MiG-29 naval jet landed on a refitted former Soviet aircraft carrier Friday, marking the first such operation since the ship was delivered by Russia to the south Asian nation earlier this year.

    “An exciting event took place today – the first landing of an [Indian] MiG-29 piloted by an Indian pilot on the Vikramaditya,” Russia’s United Shipbuilding Corporation vice president Igor Ponomarev told reporters at the ongoing DEFEXPO-2014 exhibition in New Delhi.

    in reply to: INS Vikramaditya: Steaming towards Induction #2032428
    JangBoGo
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    Some news on future/WIP armament for MiG-29Ks, courtesy Austin.

    Brahmos-M (for Mini)

    BrahMos to showcase a mockup of a new missile at DEFEXPO-2014 held in India
    Russian Aviaton » Thursday February 6, 2014 15:58 MSK

    The joint venture BrahMos Aerospace between Russia and India to showcase a full-scale mockup of a new BrahMos-M missile at DEFEXPO-2014 Land, Naval & Internal Homeland Security Systems Exhibition. It is a smaller version of the supersonic cruise missile BrahMos, ITAR-TASS reports with reference to the CEO of BrahMos Aerospace, Dr. A. Sivathanu Pillai.

    “We must decrease the weight of the missile in order to integrate it with different platforms, including fifth-generation fighter developed by India in cooperation with Russia”, – he noted adding that the fifth-generation fighter and carrier-based MiG-29K/KUB jets will be able to carry two BrahMos-M missiles, while Su-30MKI aircraft will carry three ones.

    According to him, the Board of Directors of BrahMos Aerospace has approved the start of development of the new missile. “We hope to launch the first missile of the type in three years”, – Pillai added.

    Presumably, the missile will have the following dimensions: length – 6 m, diameter – 50 cm. It will have a maximum speed of 3,5 Mach (the current versions of missiles made by BrahMos Aerospace are able to reach the speed of 2.8 Mach). The missile will be able to carry a warhead with a weight of up to 300 kg; its range will be 290 km. The company has already tested two-stage BrahMos-M cruise missile with a length of 10 m and a diameter of 70 cm.

    Equally deadly are another air-launched missile series from the Klub family meant for MiG-29K. This was shown back in 2007 and since then not much news about it. It might be in development or in testing and not something that have been shelved. We will get to hear something solid about this missile in 2015 (if we do not hear anything in 2014) as the MiG-35 for Russian AF is to start production in 2016.

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    AFAIK, the innermost pylons on MiG-29K/35 is rated for 1,500Kg ordnance like the KAB-1500 series and 29K would be able to carry the sub-sonic varaint of the air-launched Klub family. Below are some spec for the two missiles.

    3M-54AE (2-stage, supersonic)
    Length – 7.9m
    Weight – 1,959Kg
    Warhead – 200Kg
    Range – 220Km

    3M-54AE1 (single-stage, subsonic)
    Length – 6.2m
    Weight – 1,400Kg
    Warhead – 400Kg
    Range – 220+Km

    3M-14AE (single-stage, subsonic) – land attack
    Length – 6.2m
    Weight – 1,400Kg
    Warhead – 400Kg
    Range – 220+Km

    land/ship/sub-based are 3 & 2 stage respectively.

    MiG-29K would be able to carry the 2 x sub-sonic Klub on underwing pylons where as the heavier & longer 3M54AE @ 1,950Kg & 7.9m would only fit in centr pylon.

    in reply to: INS Vikramaditya: Steaming towards Induction #2032432
    JangBoGo
    Participant

    The point is that we all know that Rafale M can catch a wire but can it take off from a ramp why would Dassalt spend millions going to India to find out when there is two perfectly good ramps a hour away in the UK if all goes well with the point proved then go all the way to India

    The point is about STO from the carrier deck and not about Rafale-M running 450m for take-off. What is required is 198m STO capability with max weapons load. AFAIK, the UK facility do not have the chokes which are an integral part of the STOBAR. So I dont see it simulating any carrier based STO.

    in reply to: INS Vikramaditya: Steaming towards Induction #2032434
    JangBoGo
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    The E-2C Hawkeye had demonstrated an ability to launch from a low incline ski-jump built ashore at NAS Patuxent River during the 1980s. In 2004 and early 2005 Northrop Grumman did further research on a ski-jumping Hawkeye 2000 in the context of a proposal to the Indian Navy, and while insisting that this was perfectly feasible had to admit that the required changes for STOBAR operations would reduce the aircraft’s capabilities somewhat compared to the standard model.

    Probably it was based on that test that E-2C was offered to India. But from the earlier read news reports, the offer was rejected by Indian Navy because the payload lightened E-2C which could take-off from ski-jump could offer only about an hour in air. Anyways if they want to try again, they would be called upon to prove it from the STB, which is now ready. Well almost…. the “runway air finishers” being WIP.

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