I do not doubt your sources, of course:). However it surprises me, having spent a good few years in retail packaging, because the majority of items on the shelves come in packaging applied and ink jet printed by the manufacturer and the supermarket would not have the packaging equipment to repack and redate, and most certainly not by the night shift!

most deffinately you would need two store rooms one for the products and one for the packaging so cant see that happening unless on the fruit and veg

there are some stores that sell out of date ex supermarket foods at huge discount from warehouses if you search them out !!

but having said that in the last week i have even thrown fruit out baught in tescos even though it was refrigerated and after only 3 days

The only Peugot factory in the UK I know of, outside Coventry, closed years ago.

probably correct on that one wasn’t it the ex triumph works ??

If you can make £130.00. from nothing, good for you, well done.
I will try and answer some of your questions as regards police vehicles, being an x Patrol Car driver, but I can however only comment on my time in the Force.
Police Forces buy new cars, as they get huge discounts when they buy from a particular manufacturer, thats why a lot of “KIDS” these days buy Scoobies, because the police use them,and what a good advert for the manufacturers to boot. also they get a full guarantee with them. At Lincoln, we had all the fascilities to repair any damaged cars or full services. That stopped years ago, now contracted out.The traffic Deps are allocated a certain amount of money each year, and have to use it or get less in their next allocation. I am not, in any way shape or form in agreement with “Plain clothes cars” as I consider them a form of entrapment, the logic is good but in practice bad. I had a nasty experience with a plain clothes car once, when I had left the job, and refused to pull over. But thats another story.As regards welding in a cage, manufacturers throw them in with the sale, just as you and I would when swapping cars, asking the salesman, “Can you throw in a set of carpets, mudflaps etc”. as for washing the sick out, any drunk who was sick in my car never went home until he and she’s cleaned it up.! I have no respect for todays sloppy dressed manner, they wear no ties open necked shirts, NO creases in their trousers. There is no need for it, and as I have seen, their heavy handed tactics, in many situations. But I must disagree with you on beaten up vehicles, once you go down that road, all respect, what we have left, and thats not a lot these days.has gone, I.M.H.O. the modern Police are not as good as old school, they,more or less do as they like when on duty, they have no or very little respect for the public but expect it from them.I would, if I were the Home Secretary, make ALL Police Officers spend half their shift in the office to clear paper work, and 4 hrs WALKING THE STREETS, yes, when did YOU actualy see one walking your street, and stopping you to ask you how you thought things were where you live?.Don’t bother to answer that, as I can guess the answere.

Lincoln. 7

deffinateley have to agree with you on the tidyness issue ,

i worked as a local community warden ( before PCSO’s ) we were checked daily for smartness and got ********d up and down if we were not imaculate and sweet smelling !

i look at the modern yobs of police officers and have little respect for them , their behaviour is appalling and as for appearance i saw one fat oaf fall out of a police van a few weeks ago he was scruffy , dirty , probably smelly ( thank god i wasn’t close enough )

it wouldn’t have been so bad if he’d fell out of the back but he came from the drivers seat !!

but even with huge block discounts on cars you probably still loose more on depreciation of each unit a one year old car has lost its biggest price drop

and there are dealers in ex fleet cars that could also offer huge block discounts on vehicles

buying wisely at 1 yr old you still have the cars dealers waranty

i’m obviously not saying buy wrecks but i’d rather have a smart copper turn up in a tatty car than a tatty copper turning up in a new car

although to be fair the trick is getting them to turn up atall !!

I don’t think I could ever persuade Mrs SH to shop for groceries on-line. She has to see and touch what she buys.;) It will be interesting to see how the future pans out now that Waitrose have gone head to head against Ocado in the on-line shopping market.

my friends use practicaly nothing but home delivery sure they charge to deliver

but they have saved fuel , done other jobs in the time saved , not had the extra expense of kids throwing things in the trolley , saved potential trolley dings to car bodywork , missed out traffic jams

they actualy say ” there are so many positives , you have to be an idiot to actualy enjoy supermarket shopping nowadays !!

I wouldnt give Tesco a penny of my money-period.

well done , ill walk 5 miles to somewhere else if i was stood at tescos door !!

In Asda you have to practically climb over empty cardboard packaging to get to anything, plus the store is laid out in a weird way. The vegetables seem third rate and the meat always seems on the fatty side.

our asda doesn’t seem to have that problem

Lidl is not an option.

it’s not so much it isn’t an option ( as netto where i live ) they have some superb buys , some better quality than the large boys , i’m sellective and splitt between the two ..

There is no longer a high street Butcher, Greengrocer or Fishmonger in the town.

we’re lucky i have 2 superb butchers within walking distance , i won’t buy s**t supermarket meat as there is a huge difrence between localy reared animals and correctly treated/ aged meat
i also have the local market for proper veg and occasionaly a farmers market

That leaves Sainsbury, who by far, have the best meat and veg quality of any store I have been in. We have never had a bad bit of meat or ever had poor quality fruit or vegetables A tad dearer yes, but also the staff are really friendly and the store is clean.
Denis.
(Main hunter gatherer for the family:))

i can’t vouch for sainsburys as they’re not in my area but like any supermarket there will be price considerations governing the real quality of the food

but i’ll part with this thaught , i baught a fresh chicken from tesco the other day ( have to shop there for my client ) it was baught on thurs and kept refrigerated it was rancid by sun , a problem i have never encountered when i buy my own from netto !!

What have we got left? A very sizeable amount was sold off by another government, in another time.;)

correct the only real asset this country has left in its own hands is the ground you walk on

most of our industry and big business is in foreign hands

asda ( american ) , mcdonalds ( american ) , cadburys ( american , jaguar ( indian ) , power companies ( french ) , peugot ( french ) , honda ( japanese ) , toyota ( japanese ) , HP sauce ( holland ) ,leyland daf ( gaz russian )

there’s very little we haven’t sold ( the foreign car factories in some cases are ex british car factory sites

the excuses to sell them were said to be ” because they are unproffitable to run funny how those companies now crow about huge proffits

i had an interesting thaught on how to save what must amount to a hell of a lot of money

police forces always buy new vehicles and in general don’t realy keep them long

so even with generous fleet deals one hell of a lot of tax payers money is lost on depreciation

so why not buy one or two year old vehicles ??

the biggest percentage of lost depreciation money would not be footed by the tax payer , factory screw ups ( sorry re calls ) will be sorted

and what does it matter if the van is a little battered your only going to weld a cage in it for drunks so the less fittings the better so you can power wash it out

colours of police cars are not important as blue lights and sirens are usualy a fair indication to me

the first mot is 3 yrs but police mechanics are pretty keen

they don’t have to be in top looking condition as they are going to get rammed or used in tpac manouvers anyway

also the same for council vehicles why buy brand new when there are more than enough vehicles from bust companys on the market

just a thaught but the savings to be had must be huge

also why don’t councils sell items at the tip

you think i jest i saw a numb nuts throwing out a childs bike

i noticed it was a rare 1970’s limited edition model asked him if i could have it and he gave it me

i took it home photographed it and put it on ebay and walked off £130.00 better off

my sister said at the time ” your embarassing me !”

i said later ” for £130.00 a shot i’d like to get embarassed every day !”

the thing is though that money could have gone in the councils pockets

instead our council has workers that do little but chuck a mental if you put the wrong item in the wrong area

Dead right tornado64. but if you were on holiday in the uk, you would have to be included on the form at the address you were staying at. be it at a hotel, guest house, caravan site or tent in a farmers field. :rolleyes:

and you may just get off with it if you are in wales !!