Given that you’ve already told us that the law demands that legal firearms must be kept in a secure cabinet that is subject to Police inspection, I’m struggling to see how they could make any difference to “street” gun crime for good or for ill.

I agree with J Boyle.

There, I said it. 😉

you couldn’t , the fact is that most criminals firearms are ” illegal ” and i realy couldn’t care less about people spouting things like gun cabinets

that in itself is a falicy if a crimminal wants something he will get it !

i used to work installing security shutters and attended more than my fair share of burglaries where thieves were intent

i once attended one where the security shutters were oxy acetelened , window smashed , a brick wall knocked down , and a safe taken with them

if a crimminal is realy after your guns he will not care about them being in a gun safe

he will simply take the gun safe and work on that problem later at his liesure !!

I think you’ll find that guncrime has become much worse since the banning of handguns.

the biggest problem with that is that there is no proof how much worse it would have been if we had not banned them ….

but common sense and reality tells you that it would have been !!

as another correctly pointed out earlier , if you have a problem with your house burning down bringing more petrol is not a solution

presently most burglers etc do not carry weapons , they usualy prefer doing it whilst the home owner is out

watch that change if we addopted americas ideas

You had to have a license for them before they were banned and the few cases I can think of(hungerford being the one that sticks in my mind) the firearms used were legally licensed.hungerford , dunblane and the cumbria shootings were all legaly owned firearms , massed shootings seem to be legaly held weapons whilst crimminals are usualy just happy shooting each other over drugs arguments etc !!

Like CRB checks, im sure all of those people who apply for firearms licenses are checked by the local police force (pnc etc)

If they were a violent criminal they wouldnt get one but at the same time, any hardened violent criminal would know exactly where to purchase an illegal firearm anyway!!

I dont think its a bad thing and honeslty I dont think things would change that much.

a large percentage of guns must have come from somewhere !! it is fair to say a lot are imported

but it is fair to say a lot will be stolen in burglaries or from vehicles !!

i realy cannot see the screwed up logic that putting more guns out there will solve a problem , even a halfwit can understand more water comming into a sinking ship isn’t a good idea !!

it was his last couple of steps and fall with the forward movement that her and others around her wrongly interpreted as him running towards her and being a threat !!

the point being not everything is always as it first seems and even experienced day to day intensively trained firearms teams screw up

what we are suggesting is an accountant from essex is allowed to cary what amounts to instant death , that may devote an hour a month on a range ( if that in most cases )

a close friend still has ptsd from killing argies in the falklands

no matter how tough you think you are!! or how much you know you were in the right !!

killing another human will haunt you for the rest of your life !!

if not you are on a level with the scum you shot !!

god willing there have only been 3 times in my life where an american would have deemed it necessary to have a gun for defence

1 a young couple sneaked in an already broken window in a large victorian house where i used to live ( my responsibility realy as i should have repaired it ) the most they were probably doing was stopping out of the rain on a foul night and by the looks of them were more intrested in having sex than nicking anything !!

thank god i didn’t have the right to have a gun the jumpiness of the situation in the pitch dark could have seen a young innocent teenager dead !!

no 2 i was once mugged ( jumped from the rear ) there was no time to even think about drawing a gun the most i could do was swing my fist and break his nose !!

and lastly 3 i was set about by a small gang of youths in the town centre again a gun would have been a hopeless case as there were too many others about

and there is the big thing with guns in the heat of the moment can you be sure you will shoot the correct person ???

i’ll end with a little tale !! many years ago my next door neighbour had a lad run towards her with wild eyes with his had raised agressive looking looking in all intents that he was going to assault her !!
it is a probability that if armed her or someone close to the scene would probably raised a gun , if not indeed shot him

he was eppeleptic and having a fit at the time and was one of the softest most sociable gentlemen i have ever met

remember even highly trained officers make mistakes with firearms !!

do i want any member of the public to have one with scant training ??

like hell i do !!

why ??? , are you unemployed ????

Well if you do not refer to what you are posting about how would I know? I cannot yet read the minds of our members!;):)

and there was me thinking that no refrences to a single thing in your post may have been a clue !! :rolleyes::)

unfair blaming it on the hawk being an old aircraft . it is well kept by a dedicated team ( the blues ) etc ,

also the facts are not known yet

a brand new aircraft would not have avoided low level bird strike , pilot destraction , or many more of the possible causes