In addition to what Steve says above, sometimes water droplets, I believe, have an effect on the aerodynamics of an aircrafts wing and will have an affect on the airflow and therefore “fiddle” with the lift, so to speak (although this is only a guess).

Mark.

Mark

This isn’t true, water droplets are the same as air, air is a “liquid”, and the water droplets in the form of cloud will move across the airfoil the same as air, however, if you have water droplets that are supercooled this is a different story, you can get rime ice & clear ice from water droplets which will then only effect the aerodynamic capabilities of the wing once ice has formed on the leading edges

Welcome to the forums Michael, however, I have removed the link to your website as I am very sceptical about 1st time posters who post links to their personal site, and I am not trusting enough to click on it to look.
Once you are established here maybe we’ll revisit 🙂

Enjoy your stay

Dean

Ahh that explains why I had to pay £420 then Neil, and I got a more stringent medical? 🙁
The EEG is not a nice experience I can assure you, you’ll be glad they don’t conduct this any more

Great shots Tartan, love the RyanAir 738

On the CTC Wings website u said about i would need to be bonded. I did read this on the website but was not 100% sure what it was. Does it mean if i quite the training or dont complete it i would have to pay them that amount?

It isn’t that clear no, it may be worth giving them a call, they are generally very helpful.
What I understand is that you will have to take out a loan from a high street bank to pay the £60k bond, this is held by a company called Airline Placement Ltd, upon completion of training this bond will be paid to the airline that you gain employment with and they will then release this bond back to you in increments to pay off the bond to the bank, so in effect costing you very little, if you fail however, I would be very surprised if they did nothing, I would bet they would recoup the money they had spent on your training, so it would pay not to pull out towards the end of the course because they said on the website the bond only covers 2/3 the training cost, so you stand to lose the lot, but it is always best to speak to them to get clarification.

This is the school nearest to me. school one

Cabair have a very good reputation, their integrated course is fully endorsed by airlines and alot of cadets do land jobs with airlines, however, be careful before signing anything modular, there are no guarantees with any course (not even integrated) but with modular I am under the impression you do not get the level of support as far as employment goes at the end of training, again, always best to speak to them.

This is a school that was recomended to me
school 2

I have had no experience with these whatsoever, it may be worth doing a search over at PPRuNe to see if there are any opinions on them, if not it is worth registering at PPRuNe and making a post yourself

I also saw this on ebay and was thinking about getting it just to have a read and look at. ebay

I am at work now so I cannot see what this is as access to eBay is restricted, I’ll look when I get home in the morning.

Also is there anyway i cant find out what is involved in the medical so if i do need to tune my health up i can work on that.

What is required in the Class 1 medical is listed here and what is required in the Class 2 medical is listed here

Also u said about

Some airlines & schools offer a free sponsorship program where they will pay for all your training, all they ask in return is that you work in their ops department or similar for 2-3 years, so in effect you are indirectly paying for your training because your wages will be nominal

Dont suppose you know anyone? i’ve had a look on few airlines website like Easy Jet they use CTC Wings could not see anythink on Virgin or British Airways.

I know of 2 in the last couple of months, 1 was with my training organisation which is Aeros Flight Training in Gloucestershire, the other is with Highland Airways, I do not know of any other, it is best to keep an eye on PPRuNe, there is a sticky post at the top of the wannabe section for the Aeros Sponsorship, and keep an eye out in the private flying monthly magazines. If I hear of any more I’ll post them here or PM you.

you also said Maths and English are important may be a silly question but why would maths and english be so inportant in flying ?

Blue Robin has told you why, but maths is especially important, you need to be pretty profficient because you may be needed to do alot of calculations in your head and quickly whilst in the air, for e.g. You may be cruising at FL350, and ATC give you your descent clearance, but they may ask you to be level at FL220 by a certain position, so you have to know your groundspeed, know how far you are away from said navaid, and then work out a rate of descent to make sure you are level by that navaid, the flight management computer is generally your best friend, but what if you have a failure etc etc?
Alot of Airline selection tests are based on Mathematics as well, if you only have basic maths skills you will not pass the aptitude tests.
As for English, well this speaks for itself, it’s a core skill, you are entering a professional career, good Maths & English is a pre-requisite

I think that’s about it once again thanks for all the advice 🙂

No worries at all, always glad to help, remember the only stupid question that exists is the one you don’t ask 🙂

I don’t sorry, I haven’t got the time to take on another sim, the wife would kill me 😮

Excellent advice Deano, well written too. I would love to get a commercial rating to instruct, just at weekends. I used to be a driving instructor and am pretty sure I could teach better than some of the instructors I have met! Would love to do an ATPL but couldn’t afford it and am probably too old. Just out of curiosity, how old were you when you started the ATPL Deano??

Hiya Simon, I guess you can still get the instructor’s rating, what you would need to do is get the 8 exams out the way, then make sure you have 150hrs, do the CPL then the Flight Instructor’s Rating, you’re never too old for this, a guy on my ATPL course did it and he is 54, he’s now a career instructor at my training organisation, I guess the only problem is that the CPL will cost about £4500, and the FIC about £6000, coupled with the exams etc it could get up to about £12,000 all in which is still alot of money, I guess it’s better to do it this way than try to go down the ATPL route which will cost the earth, trouble is, it’s alot of outlay to work at weekends, but then if you enjoy it, go for it 😉

Hats off to you for doing the distance learning stuff at the same time as the ATPL, I am having enough trouble re-learning my PPL stuff whilst working, you get funny looks on the train head stuffed in a Trevor Thom book and going through your cockpit drills…..

Hi wessex, so near yet so far, it still feels like I have so far to go, I guess I have, I have to do the Multi Engine Rating, the IR & the MCC, I’m just crossing off each section as I go hoping that the light is at the end of the tunnel, the MEIR starts in Jan so that’s only 7 weeks away, oh the joy.
I think I must have been mad to start the distance learning as well as the ATPL, but then I guess you have to do “whatever it takes” to land that first job, it will be hard work, but hopefully it’ll pay off in the end, it was hard enough doing the ATPL exams whilst having 2 very young children, I should be used to it by now hehe.
I know what you mean about the strange looks, I think we are a bunch that are different to everyone else, now is that a good thing? 😀